6.4 Powerstroke production is suspened

[Chuck_Norris]

Navistar International Corporation announced today that it has suspended production of the Power Stroke® 6.4-liter diesel engine.  Ford has worked closely with Navistar and will take the necessary steps to resolve this issue. The company is continuing to build F-Series Super Duty trucks with the 6.4-liter diesel engine. We will provide an update on status when we have new information.

[Smoknbanshee]

HOLY COW......any word on why Chuck?

[Hoosier Daddy]

OHHHHH BOY! The 6.0 issues all over again....

[HondaATC]

Haha, I bought a Cummins when the 6.0 was coming out with tons of problems and it looks like theres gonna be a repeat for tons of other people for the 6.4 too!

[Chuck_Norris]

HOLY COW......any word on why Chuck?

It is not a quality issue of the engine. It is all boiling down to money, Ford and Navistar are trying to come to an agreement regarding outstanding/non paid warranty claims.  Navistar says our techs as a whole dont know what we are doing and Ford is refuting that with quality issues. That is the issue for the current law suit. until that is resolved Navistar has suspened production of the 6.4 temporarily

[Smoknbanshee]

i see......That is big man, that is real big....that could be a back breaker for Ford.

[backinsaddle]

you can read more here:
http://www.dieselpub.com/dp/news_detail.asp?pick=712&from=0

[foreman1]

HOLY COW......any word on why Chuck?

It is not a quality issue of the engine. It is all boiling down to money, Ford and Navistar are trying to come to an agreement regarding outstanding/non paid warranty claims.  Navistar says our techs as a whole dont know what we are doing and Ford is refuting that with quality issues. That is the issue for the current law suit. until that is resolved Navistar has suspened production of the 6.4 temporarily

This doesnt read of something that will be resolved quickly.
The 6.0 issues must have been a major headache for both companies. Its my understanding that its the 07 and later emmissions regs that're really complicating these new motors with all the additional electronics needed to control emmissions.

I do feel sorry for the tech that has to service one . Open the hood on and you cant see the motor due to all the clutter of electronics , hoses, etc.

I'm a 3 time Dodge Cummins owner and have been happy with them ,but was anxious to see the  new Fords .

[backinsaddle]

You couldn't pay me enough to be a tech on the 07+ fords powerstrokes.  my understanding is that anything more than minor motor work will require raising or removing the entire cab (i.e. a headgasket replacement)

[Bigscrb15]

the 08+ do require cab off for almost anything other than simple repairs. i think it will be resolved quickly, either they will agree soon or ford may tap into its volvo brand and bring a reliable engine over, i wish they would do the rather. or offer cat or cummins(and please dont anyone say ford owns cummins, they dont)

[gearhead400]

WOW! i know you have to remove the front brace that holds the radiator/condensor to get the motor out on most of the late model f250's and f-350's but the whole cab?! thats crazy.

I heard that ford was going to develop a twin turbo diesel? that would be pretty sick.

[MuddFreak77]

WOW! i know you have to remove the front brace that holds the radiator/condensor to get the motor out on most of the late model f250's and f-350's but the whole cab?! thats crazy.

I heard that ford was going to develop a twin turbo diesel? that would be pretty sick.

the 6.4 is a twin turbo, one VVT and one std turbo.

[foreman1]

Sorry but if the cab off deal is true , you'd have be crazy to buy one.

[Chillinthemost]

Pulling the cab is not a big deal if you have a lift. Do you know how many thousands of truck have had body lifts installed? Same thing, only you lift it temporarily and higher.

[Bigscrb15]

a lot of the 6.0 powerstroke repairs require you to remove the cab.

[dynodon]

the 08+ do require cab off for almost anything other than simple repairs. i think it will be resolved quickly, either they will agree soon or ford may tap into its volvo brand and bring a reliable engine over, i wish they would do the rather. or offer cat or cummins(and please dont anyone say ford owns cummins, they dont)

FORD owns cummins, There , I said it!!!!!!!
SORRY , I had to, you know me, always the "trouble" maker LOL

[Chillinthemost]

Whats funny is in a few years people will be saying how great the 6.0 was and how complicated and unreliable all the new stuff is.

[Bigscrb15]

the 08+ do require cab off for almost anything other than simple repairs. i think it will be resolved quickly, either they will agree soon or ford may tap into its volvo brand and bring a reliable engine over, i wish they would do the rather. or offer cat or cummins(and please dont anyone say ford owns cummins, they dont)

FORD owns cummins, There , I said it!!!!!!!
SORRY , I had to, you know me, always the "trouble" maker LOL

you think your all that because you finally win a drag race.

[dynodon]

Dont hate the playa, hate the game !!!!!

Chillin, your exactly right !!!!! in two years the 6.0 will be the best ever

[trx#9]

Buy a real truck, get a Chevy. The most reliable truck on the road.

[lugnuts]

wow!!! sounds like a pay me or im not going to give you what you want power kick now as far as cummins vs ford or any other truck. most is personal perferance I work in a chrysler dealer and have for 17 years and guys I can tell you the cummins engine is ok but the rest of the truck falls apart in 30k I owned a cummins truck for several years and went through 4 transmissions and 3 evaporators and 1 complete repaint in 42k miles so I sold it and got a powerstroke (7.3L) and it has never broke down in 146,000 miles! and just got a crew cab 6.0L last month and love it how ever if you bring in you cummins with a engine or turbo problem it you have a edge module or any other on it your warranty is over we are having alot of engine failures (common rail diesel) due to these being installed alot of head gaskets and presure regulators it hand the cust the bill

[Chillinthemost]

wow!!! sounds like a pay me or im not going to give you what you want power kick now as far as cummins vs ford or any other truck. most is personal perferance I work in a chrysler dealer and have for 17 years and guys I can tell you the cummins engine is ok but the rest of the truck falls apart in 30k I owned a cummins truck for several years and went through 4 transmissions and 3 evaporators and 1 complete repaint in 42k miles so I sold it and got a powerstroke (7.3L) and it has never broke down in 146,000 miles! and just got a crew cab 6.0L last month and love it how ever if you bring in you cummins with a engine or turbo problem it you have a edge module or any other on it your warranty is over we are having alot of engine failures (common rail diesel) due to these being installed alot of head gaskets and presure regulators it hand the cust the bill

That cant be right, Lugnuts. Everybody knows that Cummins never have ANY problems EVER .

[Chillinthemost]

Buy a real truck, get a Chevy. The most reliable truck on the road.

I heard that the forest service was going to use Chevys to groom the new trail system.





























They are soooo low to the ground that they are going to drag them throught the trails with a Ford to smooth out the whoops.

[Alba450]

That sucks!

I was trying to convince my dad into getting the '08 F-250 6.4L but he doesnt want to give up the Lighting, but I cant believe they have even more issues now with the new model.  But that twin turbo 6.4L has to haul some serious mail!   

[lugnuts]

Buy a real truck, get a Chevy. The most reliable truck on the road.

I heard that the forest service was going to use Chevys to groom the new trail system.


























They are soooo low to the ground that they are going to drag them throught the trails with a Ford to smooth out the whoops.

LOL   HAHA