County Line Drag as a thought

EigerGuy · September 28, 2007, 02:01:07 AM

while i was brain storming about my cars and my fourwheelers i was thinking how big is county line drag? like all the out skirts for possible trail riding, its just a thought nothing more than that so far. is there alot of wooded areas or what??? i wasnt thinking nothing illegal maybe making it part atv park, possibly???

snowmanzz13 · September 28, 2007, 02:04:45 AM

there actually was a trail that ran throught the woods there on the south side, i used to ride over way back when

LTR450 994 · September 28, 2007, 02:25:29 AM

there has been talk about it already, but thats as far as they have gotten on that.

snowmanzz13 · September 28, 2007, 02:31:30 AM

the way i remember is, the next road south, is where we parked, and rode up and down that road there which was a hard packed dirt/gravel road and you could go into the woods from there, and go back into the quarry back there, What i really remeber was going throught the woods there and coming out onto the strip right there and watching people race up and down the strip there, but this was a couple years back and i don't know if those trails have or haven't been used and are over grown or what

EigerGuy · September 28, 2007, 02:50:56 AM

so what has to be done or how can this be perposed to the people who own the track??? i wouldnt mind getting something written up so we could have another spot to ride

Gato · September 28, 2007, 02:38:10 PM

Quote from: EigerGuy on September 28, 2007, 02:50:56 AM
so what has to be done or how can this be perposed to the people who own the track??? i wouldnt mind getting something written up so we could have another spot to ride

the guy is pete scalzo and it is the works but derm will not allow him to do anything through the wooded area only in the open area but at least something is going on will post when I have more

DjLeOo · September 28, 2007, 02:46:41 PM

What we need is people to show up to these meetings !!!! so they see the amount of responsible riders !! and do something about it quick !!!! but if not one shows nothing gets done !!!

Gato · September 28, 2007, 02:58:33 PM

Quote from: DjLeOo on September 28, 2007, 02:46:41 PM
What we need is people to show up to these meetings !!!! so they see the amount of responsible riders !! and do something about it quick !!!! but if not one shows nothing gets done !!!

this is also true something should be done in town no offence but I never saw anything in papers down here or heard of the atv rally that happened I think it was due to the place it was held I may be wrong but we need something in town I am not excluding myself I cant make all the meeting but I due make the s.fl ones and some in ftmyers and I know some of you guys make longer runs like scooterb, paul and other and I thank them cause those I cant do. But we should try to get a meeting with the gov on some of these issues even if the meeting is under false pretences like telling them it is for Insurance perposes and show up with a different ajenda lol

EigerGuy · September 28, 2007, 10:39:57 PM

Quote from: Gato on September 28, 2007, 02:38:10 PM
Quote from: EigerGuy on September 28, 2007, 02:50:56 AM
so what has to be done or how can this be perposed to the people who own the track??? i wouldnt mind getting something written up so we could have another spot to ride
the guy is pete scalzo and it is the works but derm will not allow him to do anything through the wooded area only in the open area but at least something is going on will post when I have more

cool if u guys need any help and i can help out just let me know

Justbilly · October 01, 2007, 05:23:45 PM

Gotta remember, the people running the track do not own the land. The track is temporary till it becomes of the next rock quarry.
All this land will be dug up.

Its also, kinda like a test idea to see how Dade county would react to its own track.

I'm sure there are people with more information on this than I have.

Gato · October 01, 2007, 06:26:08 PM

Quote from: Justbilly on October 01, 2007, 05:23:45 PM
Gotta remember, the people running the track do not own the land. The track is temporary till it becomes of the next rock quarry.
All this land will be dug up.

Its also, kinda like a test idea to see how Dade county would react to its own track.

I'm sure there are people with more information on this than I have.

yes he not the owner he is on a month to month basis but he has got the ok for the track

snowmanzz13 · October 02, 2007, 01:30:44 AM

from what i heard, is that the owner was on a limited lease, the govener was there maybe there 3 weeks ago and gave the owner an unlimited lease for the land because he saw what an improvement this track made on the streets and soon you will see grand stands and permant buildings as a result of this, as before he was on a limited lease which he didn't want to build on the land and have it go away in a few months, but agian this is just what i heard

EigerGuy · October 02, 2007, 02:22:11 AM

interesting, thanx for the info guys!!!

m0n0x1d3 · October 02, 2007, 09:05:29 PM

Wasnt there a dirt oval being built there? I often wonder if TT/flat track would actualy get much response down here.Also supermoto at homestead speedway would be kool.MX track is fun but it sure would be nice to have different options,especialy with Seminole having closed its woodtrails and not knowing when they will reopen.

Justbilly · October 03, 2007, 05:26:32 PM

Quote from: snowmanzz13 on October 02, 2007, 01:30:44 AM
from what i heard, is that the owner was on a limited lease, the govener was there maybe there 3 weeks ago and gave the owner an unlimited lease for the land because he saw what an improvement this track made on the streets and soon you will see grand stands and permant buildings as a result of this, as before he was on a limited lease which he didn't want to build on the land and have it go away in a few months, but agian this is just what i heard

Myabe I'm confused, but how could the governor approve an "unlimited" lease, when the land is not even owned by Florida. It is part of the white rock mining company I believe.

LINK500 · October 03, 2007, 05:57:34 PM

Quote from: m0n0x1d3 on October 02, 2007, 09:05:29 PM
Wasnt there a dirt oval being built there? I often wonder if TT/flat track would actualy get much response down here.Also supermoto at homestead speedway would be kool.MX track is fun but it sure would be nice to have different options,especialy with Seminole having closed its woodtrails and not knowing when they will reopen.

I would be into that if it came down here and know of a few guys down here that would also be into that. All those flat tracks are so far Miami-Dade.

snowmanzz13 · October 03, 2007, 06:29:42 PM

Quote from: Justbilly on October 03, 2007, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: snowmanzz13 on October 02, 2007, 01:30:44 AM
from what i heard, is that the owner was on a limited lease, the govener was there maybe there 3 weeks ago and gave the owner an unlimited lease for the land because he saw what an improvement this track made on the streets and soon you will see grand stands and permant buildings as a result of this, as before he was on a limited lease which he didn't want to build on the land and have it go away in a few months, but agian this is just what i heard

Myabe I'm confused, but how could the governor approve an "unlimited" lease, when the land is not even owned by Florida. It is part of the white rock mining company I believe.

again this is just what i heard but it would be cool

ScooterB · October 03, 2007, 09:31:54 PM

At he last OHV Meeting in Orlando Mia /Dade parks and rec reported the
results of their study for an OHV park and
County Line was the #1 choice for a Short Term solution (the next 5 years)
it is 40 acres of a 640 acre parcel
6 months to prepare RFP's for improvements to the area.

Gato · October 03, 2007, 10:20:01 PM

Yeah but Scott I believe was your name I was at county line when it was propsed to him with MGR (cary) and the wooded parts are of limits because of derm and if you have not been there it is not much the place is good to hold and mx track and maybe mud holes but the is not much without the wooded area and even then it is not much the thing is how much will ppl be willing to pay to ride it

Gato · October 03, 2007, 10:23:08 PM

which other places were on the list cause SFWMD pulled all thier lots off the list at the last minute and rockyglade looked to be a better spot The thing that sucks is it takes all this time to open something but 1 day to close something else and the aerojet lot is big but only the outskirts of the property will be able to be ridden not the whole thing

ScooterB · October 03, 2007, 11:29:11 PM

Short Term
1 County Line
2 Opa Locka

Long Term
1. Big Cypress Training Airport 1800 acres
2. Fla Rock Land in Homestead 565 acres
3. Homestead Speedway area 450 acres

Gato · October 03, 2007, 11:53:21 PM

2 & 3 idont think will happen cause yes it is wooded but next to some homes a bit farther in but also think they are the same area which is the Humps as we call it I may be wrong

Gato · October 03, 2007, 11:55:23 PM

please post me on any meeting south of Orlando I may be able to attend some of them I know rick emails me most the time but just incase Gorda1072@comcast.net thanks

ScooterB · October 04, 2007, 12:59:28 AM

Will Do.........

The Next OHV Meeting is on October 16-17 in Pensacola.

m0n0x1d3 · October 04, 2007, 11:06:45 PM

Big cypress airport would be nice.alot of land and plus its closer than seminole Mx for us miami riders.Also theywould make money off of it and we all know how the goverment likes our money.I agree with Gato on the homestead areas not a good sight because of houses.Hopefuly somthing happens soon.I have a 525 irs that I have been gearing up for woods riding and then realized that without seminole we have no real woods/trail riding.On a side note does FTR lobby for riding areas?