bike????

fdatv · May 12, 2006, 12:12:25 PM

im goin 2 get a z400 or the honda 450 i go 2 RR and i also want 2 start ridin on the track. what r the pros and cons about both and point me in the right direction. $:-\$
thx

Fox17 · May 12, 2006, 02:26:05 PM

you cant go wrong with honda 450R. my friends dad just got one and loves it.

klutchbuster400 · May 12, 2006, 05:52:57 PM

well how many trips do you plan on taking it to river ranch, and to the track, z's are about as good as a 450r on the track if you know how to ride it, and the z has reverse, which would come in handy on the trials. but man are those 450r's pretty sweet. If youre going to ride at rr more, i would take the z.

Chevy1500z71 · May 12, 2006, 09:39:10 PM

if ur serius about track than y not an ltr...

fdatv · May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM

i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660?

klutchbuster400 · May 12, 2006, 10:20:42 PM

Quote from: fdatv on May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660?

they are powerful, but cows, i like to think of them as cows on steriods, fast, powerful, but heavy. A few buds of mines have one. they happen to get stuck in the mud more often just because of that.

Fox17 · May 12, 2006, 11:41:38 PM

Quote from: fdatv on May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660?

not made for track. too heavy. go with a Honda 450r. they are awesome.

backwoods boy · May 13, 2006, 10:51:15 PM

i'm w/ fox17 i'd rather have quality than reverse

fdatv · May 14, 2006, 11:06:02 AM

my buddie is willing 2 sell me his 450r 2005 all stock for 4000???is that a good deal it is like brand new

gery350 · May 14, 2006, 11:35:33 AM

Quote from: fdatv on May 14, 2006, 11:06:02 AM
my buddie is willing 2 sell me his 450r 2005 all stock for 4000???is that a good deal it is like brand new

thats an awesome deal!

klutchbuster.

backwoods boy · May 14, 2006, 12:46:03 PM

i'd go for it man those things are wicked quick even stock

fdatv · May 14, 2006, 12:57:15 PM

How much do u think i can get 4 a 2001 warrior in great shape w/ some mods??

TRX450R_Racer · May 14, 2006, 02:30:08 PM

I would NOT buy a 2005 or a 2006 Z400 because of the problems with the clutch cover corroding away. The only way I would buy one is if the dealer put a 2004 cluych cver on iy before I took it home.

Yamaha72 · May 14, 2006, 03:59:14 PM

Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 12, 2006, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: fdatv on May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660?
they are powerful, but cows, i like to think of them as cows on steriods, fast, powerful, but heavy. A few buds of mines have one. they happen to get stuck in the mud more often just because of that.

Im sorry but I do not think you guys know to much about Raptors then.

Raptor 660 Specs.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/46/0/specs.aspx

Z400 Specs.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/LTZ400K5/Specs/Default.aspx

398 = Raptor

372 = Z400
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26 lb. difference is not alot, and the power more than enough makes up for it.
There is also no way a stock Z400 is as fast as any stock 450 on the track either.... It is your choice, all are great choices but the Z or Raptor would be more all around, while the 450 is a refined MX/Trail quad.

klutchbuster400 · May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM

actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.

as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.

fdatv · May 14, 2006, 05:47:55 PM

thx 4 the replys

Yamaha72 · May 14, 2006, 09:21:38 PM

Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.

as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.

I understand where you are coming from, and 26 pounds is a pretty big difference, but not a crazy big difference. As I am 6'-3" and 260lbs. the 26 lb. difference doesnt really concern me, but thanks for helping me realize....

klutchbuster400 · May 14, 2006, 09:24:15 PM

Quote from: Yamaha72 on May 14, 2006, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.

as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.

I understand where you are coming from, and 26 pounds is a pretty big difference, but not a crazy big difference. As I am 6'-3" and 260lbs. the 26 lb. difference doesnt really concern me, but thanks for helping me realize....

sorry if i sounded like a smart @ss yamaha 72, just trying to get my ideas across

Yamaha72 · May 14, 2006, 09:26:01 PM

Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: Yamaha72 on May 14, 2006, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.

as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.

I understand where you are coming from, and 26 pounds is a pretty big difference, but not a crazy big difference. As I am 6'-3" and 260lbs. the 26 lb. difference doesnt really concern me, but thanks for helping me realize....
sorry if i sounded like a smart @ss yamaha 72, just trying to get my ideas across

right back at ya...