Help choose between 06 yfz, 06 450r

Luisyfz · October 06, 2005, 09:09:37 AM

Hi im buying a new quad its either a yfz or a 450r both o6's i just wanted to see what everyone thought. I mostly ride trails but am really liking and getting into motorcross. I think with the new bike ill be riding alot more at the tracks. I like the new suzuki 450 but i want to wait till they get the bugs out for the first year. What is a better bike , reliabiity ,speed , suspension?

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TRX450R_Racer · October 06, 2005, 12:22:13 PM

Go for the Honda!!!

BIGWORM3699 ( ECP RACING) · October 06, 2005, 12:47:08 PM

LT450R

Honda250ex · October 06, 2005, 02:57:34 PM

YFZ450 but go with the rapter 700, it is wider and has YFZ450 A-arms plus it will blow a YFZ or TRX or a LT-R

2006YFZ450 · October 06, 2005, 05:23:00 PM

If you ride serious track get the '06 YFZ450 but if you ride track, trail, dunes,..ect get the Raptor 700R. You can't go wrong.

96 warrior · October 06, 2005, 06:30:42 PM

same thing raptor700 said

yamaha is faster

xtremeraptor · October 06, 2005, 07:40:45 PM

BUY YAMAHA...............EITHER THE 700 OR THE 450,BESIDES HONDA CANT TOUCH EITHER ONE

Luisyfz · October 06, 2005, 10:33:04 PM

But the hondas new 06 450r 's engine is diffrent this year higher compression, and i think a new head design.

Wannagofaster · October 07, 2005, 10:37:24 AM

There is a reason why alot of the Pro's and the local fast riders are switching from yamaha to honda. just look at the results of every pro GNC race this year. Honda TRX450R won 80% of the races.

TRX450R_Racer · October 07, 2005, 11:08:01 AM

The Honda has a all new engine. 42HP stock 50HP with the HRC kit. There is a new top dog and it isn't Yamaha.

ish · October 07, 2005, 11:12:57 AM

also the 06 450r has electric start now.

RAP04 · October 07, 2005, 11:15:11 AM

42 HP... Doubt that.. Got any documentation on that.... Plus the YFZ also has a few upgrades of its own like a 10cc upgrade, bigger radiator for better cooling, new style swinger and many more valuable updates... Everyone in track racing is switching over to Honda cause Honda is throwing out so much sponsoring money that you would be stupid not to switch after all, at the track, Its all about the rider.... A 400ex has taken 1st place over a 450R and YFZ at Seminole track many times..... If u wanna trail ride and casualy ride the track get the 700R... On easyrider the driver took both the new YFZ and the new Raptor for a 2 lap time testing and the Raptor got the lowest times on the track... Thats stock, once u do some upgrades the YFZ is better for the track...

Wannagofaster · October 07, 2005, 11:22:18 AM

And that 400ex would be a let's see a HONDA.LOL

TRX450R_Racer · October 07, 2005, 11:25:16 AM

YES I DO!!!!! Here you go read it and weep.
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184384

RAP04 · October 07, 2005, 11:27:15 AM

That what I mean... In the track, its all rider.... But in a str8 drag that Honda better hope the yamaha breaks down cause if not its back to the trailer with sled...

Wannagofaster · October 07, 2005, 11:29:38 AM

All i have to say is i see alot of Honda's push or pull starting Yamaha's at the track to get to gate.

RAP04 · October 07, 2005, 11:33:48 AM

I go to Seminole every week and I havent seen many Yamahas breaking down... One of my boys that goes with me has a 450R and it ripps... Im not bashing Honda I actually like them.. But dont tell me it will out motor a YFZ... Would have to see that... And forget about even trying to see the tail light on the 700R.

TRX450R_Racer · October 07, 2005, 11:36:13 AM

I agree about it being the rider., but put the same rider an a better quad and he is even faster. Also the 450R was totally revamped it wasn't just the engine. Do a little research before you compare models.

RAP04 · October 07, 2005, 11:41:09 AM

I meant actual Yamaha HP specs not some guy with uncalibrated dyno...

I have access to a Dyno and the 05 450R puts out 34hp.. A 05 YFZ puts out 39... Yamaha claimed 39 on the yFZ and they where dead on.. Honda claimed 37 on the 450R and they where a bit off.. I guess we will just have to wait and see. I have no problem cause I have a 800cc raptor that will blow the plastics off of any of these bikes on a str8 away ofcourse... On a track I would get lapped by a Mojave 300

Wannagofaster · October 07, 2005, 11:42:48 AM

To be fair they are very comparable. it really comes down to what you like better in the way the bike looks. once you start to modify them is where you may gain some advantage either way. It just comes down to how much money you want to spend. Some of the engine builders think you can get a little more out of the Honda and they also think once modified the Honda is a little more reliable. But stock the YFZ is a little faster. at least for the 05 models. it will be interesting to see how thw 06 models compare. RAP 04 do you and your Honda friend have numbers on your bikes. What class do you race in?

RAP04 · October 07, 2005, 11:48:28 AM

Totally agree with u wanna...

I dont race... I just put around... I am waiting for the 300ft sand drag. My brother has a YFZ #15... he is always out there.... And my other boy has a 450R #66 and he races... I am also friends with AROD, WhiteNight, AirMike and the rest of the top 5 at Seminole...

Wannagofaster · October 07, 2005, 11:50:54 AM

What class do they race in and what are the other top 5 numbers?

TRX450R_Racer · October 07, 2005, 12:02:23 PM

Quote from: RAP04 on October 07, 2005, 11:41:09 AM
I meant actual Yamaha HP specs not some guy with uncalibrated dyno...

I have access to a Dyno and the 05 450R puts out 34hp.. A 05 YFZ puts out 39... Yamaha claimed 39 on the yFZ and they where dead on.. Honda claimed 37 on the 450R and they where a bit off.. I guess we will just have to wait and see. I have no problem cause I have a 800cc raptor that will blow the plastics off of any of these bikes on a str8 away ofcourse... On a track I would get lapped by a Mojave 300

That guy you speak of is the engine builder for Joe Byrd. Ever heard of Joe Byrd? Ever heard of DASA racing engines??? That is the man that builds PRO RACE engines. I believe him. He has credentials. AGAIN do some research before you speek. the 05 and 06 450Rs have TOTALLY DIFFERENT engines.

TRX450R_Racer · October 07, 2005, 12:03:19 PM

Quote from: Wannagofaster on October 07, 2005, 11:42:48 AM
To be fair they are very comparable. it really comes down to what you like better in the way the bike looks. once you start to modify them is where you may gain some advantage either way. It just comes down to how much money you want to spend. Some of the engine builders think you can get a little more out of the Honda and they also think once modified the Honda is a little more reliable. But stock the YFZ is a little faster. at least for the 05 models. it will be interesting to see how thw 06 models compare. RAP 04 do you and your Honda friend have numbers on your bikes. What class do you race in?

We are talking about stock for stock. Not modded.

Wannagofaster · October 07, 2005, 12:35:27 PM

I understand. i don't think either become really good until you Mod them. i rode my 450r stock for the break in only. i do think the Honda is the best bike either way Modded or stock. just my opinion though.