How many more troops have to die?

[enniehall]

you know from just being in the military myself, the worst thing i think that i could ever hear is

"why are our boys over there dying for nothing" or "what are we doing there"

just seems so d**ned disrespectful to the 1900 hundred folks that have given the ultimate sacrifice for their country. instead of supporting them and honoring them by standing behind what they believed in, and honoring them by doing such, we question everything and then run rampant trying to come up with some excuse. Same with the lady protesting the war, why would you disrespect the memory by protesting, instead of taking comfort that your child did what he felt was right. such is our country, though the folks that protect and enable free speech to go on will always somehow find themselves in this sort of predicament. or maybe it is just me, and i do feel greif that american soldiers are dying there, but honor the fact that we do not just simply sit by and let the world tailspin down the gutter...

Just wondering you said you were in the military but where you over there?  It's just a question no means of disrespect.

[enniehall]

My head hurts now form reading all this stuff  :K

[310R_Dude]

you know from just being in the military myself, the worst thing i think that i could ever hear is

"why are our boys over there dying for nothing" or "what are we doing there"

just seems so d**ned disrespectful to the 1900 hundred folks that have given the ultimate sacrifice for their country. instead of supporting them and honoring them by standing behind what they believed in, and honoring them by doing such, we question everything and then run rampant trying to come up with some excuse. Same with the lady protesting the war, why would you disrespect the memory by protesting, instead of taking comfort that your child did what he felt was right. such is our country, though the folks that protect and enable free speech to go on will always somehow find themselves in this sort of predicament. or maybe it is just me, and i do feel greif that american soldiers are dying there, but honor the fact that we do not just simply sit by and let the world tailspin down the gutter...

So now you have turned caring deeply for the loss of American lives, including ones son or daughter,  into something "disrespectful"?  That my friend is truly ludicrous.

Nobody felt this way about Afghanistan. We knew the facts and acted upon it. It was
justified.

Iraq on the other hand is slightly more complex. Our history with that country has ultimately screwed its people more than helped them.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

This isn't even a War. It is an Occupation, an Invasion or Takeover. What ever you want
to call it other than War. Did they really have any chance of winning? NO

And don't give me that crap that it's about freedom, its not. Ever since 9/11 my
freedom was not in jeopardy, but my safety was.  And if you say it's about the
Iraqi's freedom... well, that is still yet to be determined. Right now that are neither
free nor safe.

And also our leaders contradicted themselves for their own justifications as why we our over there:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm

Please, nobody speculate that there was WMD, the facts say right now there was not.

If only we treated our own country with type of generosity:

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=171440


The information is out there. But you have to look past our own media.
I have even seen the atrocities we ourselves have commited to the Iraqi's
on Public television, on American TV.

I pray that somehow, someway for someone to be delivered a vision of resolution
to this conflict. I am not foolish enough to believe in World Peace but I do believe
we could live in a more Peaceful World.

Take care all

[Jaskel]

So now you have turned caring deeply for the loss of American lives, including ones son or daughter,  into something "disrespectful"?  That my friend is truly ludicrous.

No i am not, but my point is, that until the men and women started dying, the whole country to include the parents and family of loved ones lost were behind this overwhelmingly. I truly feel sorry for the families that have lost someone so far, however I do not recall the lady protesting outside of Pres Bush's ranch being there prior to his death, did you? If i missed that part please let me know

And as for have i Been there, luckliy for me I have not been to Iraq, but I have been to Afghanistan, so can i speak with full knowledge on the subject, no, no more than most folks on here

And another thing, maybe this is too cliche' for some, but with all the complaining, there is not very much action, the beauty of the country, or rather of its design is that if you dont like the way something is, you have the opportunity, after turning the merry old age of 35 and run for president. Like i said though it may be to cliche', but hey its one way to institute change, if you have the will to do so

[bugmanjr]

Post is old I relize that but I'm gonna post anyhow..

Simple, Liberal minds in america are set on the media's promise. Its a promise to the truth throughout.. Unfortunately the media is a liberal bias .. The left hears and believes everything on the news and in the papers. They seem to never become educated to the truth..   

[TRX350_On_The_Rack]

Post is old I relize that but I'm gonna post anyhow..

Simple, Liberal minds in america are set on the media's promise. Its a promise to the truth throughout.. Unfortunately the media is a liberal bias .. The left hears and believes everything on the news and in the papers. They seem to never become educated to the truth..   

Interesting observation, but you forget that the media is mostly Corporate owned, so I disagree the News here is Liberal bias. I would have to agree the News is Liberal in other parts of the world though. Now let's get back to quad'n 

[cain73]

Hey Rep or Dem lets put our differences aside! We need our soldiers back to fight for my karma points 

[Old_School]

"GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE"   

Cain- What are you doing in the + karma range? lol.  -Mark

[cain73]

You're lucky Old_School. I was gonna smit you for that but I gave you applause less than 24 hour so I 'll have to wait and see how you act 

[Old_School]

 :w  lol. Too funny.  -Mark

[bugmanjr]

Anti-War Ant-American Left Wing Extremeist's.
Your all so full of hate towards anything or anyone that has anything to do with George W. Bush...

Here's A Quote For Ya...
We have exhausted all of our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that . . . we have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.
--Tom Daschle, in 1998, when President Clinton, struck Iraq

That Was Warrented..right..? o only when its a democratic led war...

It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.
- General Douglas MacArthur

You Liberals are the ones turning this into a Media Ran VIETNAM..
You are trying to rape the will of are soldiers to do what is needed to be done..

[310R_Dude]

Posted by: bugmanjr:
"Anti-War Ant-American Left Wing Extrem.... "

We are kind of giving the whole serious political debates
that often get very heated...  a break for now.

Just an FYI.

[cain73]

Whew, thank you 310rdude 

[310R_Dude]

Whew, thank you 310rdude 

You're welcome cain,
    It's cool mon', you dropped me off at the last stop   





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Hey dano is that the same bus that you use to take to the track pulling your short trailer with your short blaster with no siliencer packing lol;lol;lol; :bow.gif  YOU DA MAN!!!

[cain73]

Whew, thank you 310rdude 

You're welcome cain,
    It's cool mon', you dropped me off at the last stop  

No sweat brother, just remember to take your helmet next time 

[jwscroll]

Anti-War Ant-American Left Wing Extremeist's.
Your all so full of hate towards anything or anyone that has anything to do with George W. Bush...

Here's A Quote For Ya...
We have exhausted all of our diplomatic effort to get the Iraqis to comply with their own agreements and with international law. Given that . . . we have got to force them to comply, and we are doing so militarily.
--Tom Daschle, in 1998, when President Clinton, struck Iraq

That Was Warrented..right..? o only when its a democratic led war...

It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.
- General Douglas MacArthur

You Liberals are the ones turning this into a Media Ran VIETNAM..
You are trying to rape the will of are soldiers to do what is needed to be done..

So we should have done nothing? I guess you've forgotten about the USS Cole, and the US embassies in Africa?

[Honda250ex]

Were the Country that has the highest death rate and we dont know how to fix it.