ATV Florida Forum

Went riding there yesterday and on the way out there was FWC at the entrance blocking everyone from coming out.  Each person that came out he stopped and gave a mandatory summons to appear in court!  He also said that no one can park inside or outside so don't come back.

Great, another place gone.  I love that place.  You can't blame them.  Every time I have been there, there is always some not a very nice person popping wheelies on Bird Rd.  I don't get, with all that land inside that you can do whatever you want, you have to go on to the road to do stupid sh*t.

Anyway, if you go out there be careful.

Where is this place? Bird rd (sw40th) is not sw8th, right?

Same place. Bird and 157th.  you used to be able to park on Bird and go to the lake and all that area up to 8 st. 

Yes, Bird is SW 40th.

Well, it has been closed for some time now. I believe if you don't park somewhere stupid you can still enjoy what is back there.  ;)


What is the deal with the end of 41st? Been wanting to ride where the helicopter pulled those fools out of for a while now.

Same thing happened in Bonita off Bonita Beach road this weekend. Sheriff office gets complaints about the noise and ATVs on the road from the old folks in the golfing communities across the street.  And what does this butthole do..? He gets out on his 400ex with aftermarket pipes, races and does wheelies up and down the road right across from Palmira Golf & Country club...  >:( 

Miles of trails and he sits right there and races by the entrance... His buddy was riding around on a Blaster with his 2 year old on the gas tank with no protection at all. It's like Alex said you can't blame them, the officers have to do something with the complaints but then everybody pays.

Just like gun control... ATVs don't aggravate people, people aggravate people.

Last night on CBS4 news, they interviewed some of the residents living east and south of Bird. The residents have been complaining to authorities that they are at extreme risk of losing everything they own(should fire develop). Despite the fact that foresty officials told them ATVs did not cause the last fire there, they believe all OHVs and other  vehicles exhaust can cause a fire. And, they also complained of the noise at night from OHVers. Can you blame them?

Funny thing is that because of the ATV trails, I think the fire didn't spread as fast.  I saw where the fire was and the trails helped control it as well as give the firemen better access to it. 

Great. Just what ATV's needed in south Florida....more bad press.

If the trees out there look like my back yard, that place is going to burn real soon. First thunderstorm for sure. Perhaps they should ban lightning from the property as well.

ANy press is GOOD press. Maybe they will give us that jetport deal if we make enough trouble....

Heheheheheheeeee  :L

I think they (meaning "the powers that be") recognize a problem with the ATV community and the need for a place to ride. I honestly believe that a well organized effort from the ATV community might push it over the edge and result in a legal place to ride.

There are numerous places that would work. All we need is a little momentum on our end to get the ball rolling and....who knows?   ;)

Someone could make a ton of money purchasing this property we are discussing, the 110 acres off sw8. Even the BBq place has become ATV friendly and it is bordered by SFWWMD and Indian land.

We need a South Florida Paul_S to step up. I guess no one wants to get treated like he does for trying to help the community.

Isn't one of the members on this board really rich, with a Ferrari and all sorts of cool stuff. Someone really needs to contact that guy. I can't remember his name. It was Big Guy or Big father I believe.

I personally went to the Dade county permitting office and was told I had to request a public hearing (which takes 4-6 months) to see if the county would allow me to operate a atv or dirtbike on a property that I would buy. They also told me that nowhere on their records does it show anywhere in Dade county you can legally get a permit and operate a atv or dirtbike. I truly believe this is a CURRUPT MONOPOLY when Dade county Parks and Rec is the only one to have a legal place to operate a atv or dirtbike (Milton Thompson park) ie Miami mx.  I will be filing a small claims lawsuit against Dade county and ask all that got a summons on the bird road area by FWC on sunday PLEASE CONTACT ME!!!!!!!!!    This is DISCRIMINATION!!!!!!!   This is not DELIVERING EXCELLENCE EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!!      This will not be tolerated or accepted!!!!!!!!!!!!!        WE MUST DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!          Please help me with your letter of support or join me in the law suit and we can make a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT!!!!!!!!!    I only want a legal place to ride!!!!!!!!!!   I am not in this for the money!!!!!!!!!      

I will be contacting the media to get more attention to this matter!  This will no longer be ignored or brushed under the rug!!!!!!              The ball has begun to roll!!!!!!!!!        35 years of developement and still nowhere to ride?          The only place in Dade county wont be ready till 2012?   

Typical, 157 views and no one wants to get involved other than    I WANT TO PROTEST!                IF YOU GOT TICKETED BY FWC WE NEED TO TALK!!!!!!!!!   PLEASE PM ME!!!!!!!!

z man i got many tickets by  fwc  from holylands on down i will not pm you.  the truth comes out u are trying to sue someone because they have spot and you dont. u are very greedy  and the truth comes out finaly. stop while you are ahead before dade puts you in jail.



and where is paul s?    now is his chance to make  all of florida happy not just north florida

I welcome him or anyone else to try to get a place down here. good luck!

Pauls whole plan was if the plex in North Florida was shown enough support he would open another one down in South Florida. So far all he gets from most people on this board is complaints about it from people who haven't even been there yet. I know people from West Palm Beach, Port Saint Lucie, Homestead and Naples who make the drive every time there is a feature weekend have these people ridden at the other places?Of course. Do they think it is a long drive? yes. Do they think it is worth the drive? They must because I see them every event weekend. I wish people of this site could set aside their feelings long enough to notice we are not brain washed or stupid or anything else.... We just have a great time when we go there and the more people that go the more fun it is. The mentality of the people there is so different from any other place I have ridden, I can't explain it. I have been to croom been broke down in the woods and watched people ride by me and basically say good luck getting back to the parking area.. At the plex you would have a handfull of people helping you fix the bike or offering a tow strap. I have seen people stuck in the mud at some of the other places in this state and sit there for an hour waiting to get help, That would not happen at the plex. I am not a plex zombie or anything, I am just trying to promote the place I have found to be one of the best parks to ride at in this state. Why do you all gotta hate on the place, ever think that maybe the people that mention the motoplex are really good people who are just expressing the fact that they have a good time when they go there. Not all people who post in the plex threads are rude but when called names ( such as I was called on another thread) it may cause some to make rude comments in retaliation. Why does everytime someone mentions the place on this site everyone get their panties in a bunch? I love the people here who complain about the place being too far but I can almost guarantee most of those same people have made the 12 hour drive to Durhamtown and that place doesn't have anything over the plex except cabin shed rentals.

opowerspots dude   its not so much plex  is  as  simple as  when we  post about compring rideing sports  people jump in and say plex this and plex that  well the plex was not one to be compared  and when u hear that all the time  u gett pissed off at it.   look i would love to make  the 6 hour drive to come to plex for weekend to check it out  are u gonna help me with gas and such to get there?  if so run your mouth about plex because i am sure when i get back i would be on that band wagon but untill than the more i hear boutt he plex is great   when we talking bout rideing areas   down south    is the more i wanna turn on news and hear about brush fire in north florida has destroyed atv park

By the looks of your spelling ability, I can't imagine you finding your way to a riding spot any further than your back yard much less 6 hours away Matt. Jesus man at least try to spell something right so your posts make a little sense. You just might get bit more respect from others. By the way I give this thread about 1 more day till it gets LOCKED DOWN.

duroc i dont care who respects me ad who does not     i no i am the man every knows it   dont be hatin on me i smarte than u will ever be

you just gotta get used to it lol

why is it that all the thread end up as a pissing match about the plex.  :(

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Maybe you guys are bored ??? IDK.

We talk a lot about riding, and a lot about sausage on our site. Don't exactly make for stimulating conversation, but sure is more fun than a bunch of whinning and moaning and complaining about people.  ;D

its because people  think they smarter than they are  but indeed they don't no how to comprehend a simple title about bird road parking closed!   How does the plex have anything to do with that? it don't.


and people say i am the dumb,retarded, ignorant one on this site.


the only thing this site is good for it  makes me realize that there really are more people in this world that are dumber than me


dang i think i used some big words in there too ;)

I'll mention Paul_S and fix the lack of interest your thread is getting. 8)

 rolback1 rolback1 rolback1 rolback1


 ;)

Then why do you keep posting events on the plex, if you feel that way? Maybe you need the members on this site to make you more money?

Oh by the way you keep posting the plex events on the open discussion and not the group rides, why is that?

Feel what way??

It's better than selling cell phones for your brother on here, at least it's about ATV's.

For the first time I agree with you 100%. I think he and the rest of the Paul koolaid drinkers should keep Plex talk confined to some secret section of the forum, and anyone who has the nerve to mention it on open discussion should be muted or banned. Hell, even some plex owners should be shut out if they don't agree 100% with plex policies.

Don't those guys know open discussion is where we show off our insult skills, make retarded comments, lie about fantasy mud toys, firearms and practice our super duper language skills? Offroading talk has never had a place here.

WOW Jack! That was a haymaker.  :box.gif

You guys crack me up... Internet bullies making me cry  :'(  I think that why the Plex gets its bad wrap. Thanks Howard for agreeing with me.  ;)

Just remember, they [bad Internet bullies] only have as much power as you give them.  :-*

Be strong, don't give them that power over you. Go to the nearest mirror and tell the guy looking back at you he isn't a loser. Living in a van by the river isn't something to be ashamed of and you love him.  Hell, go ahead and give yourself a great  big hug and take a bubble bath. That always works for me.

Damn man, This is what started all of this.!!!!!!!!



For the record, the plex was never mentioned in this thread by anyone but you!!! I simply said someone needs to step up in SOUTH FLORIDA, like he did in NORTH FORIDA.

and jackl   al i did was  ask where paul s is   not anything about plex untill powersports dude came in talking bout it and i told him why people bad mouth it

Dude spent up all his money buying half of North Florida.

We need a different rich guy who likes to ride and has money to burn on a bunch of folks who want to sue you and throw trash on your property while insulting you on the net.


I lost all my money investing with Madoff, so I am out.

This thread is a perfect example of why we, as the ATV community are destined to fail.

Being as objective as I can, here's the best summation I can come up with.

1. If you're riding on or in an illegal area, you've got absolutely zero right to complain or otherwise raise a stink over that area getting closed. Doing so makes you and the rest of the ATV community look bad. Kind of like the recent ruckus in North Port. What part of illegal does everyone not understand? We look like idiots when we complain about such things.

2. If you want to get or keep open places to ride, do it the right way. Approach the problem in an organized manner with full knowledge of the hurdles you'll/we'll face. Going off half-cocked really makes us look bad. Ever look back at some of the interviews with ATV riders over the Holylands? Talk about finding the lowest common denominator.

3. Stop with the improper actions. If you're riding in an illegal area, you're a friggin dumbazz and you're hurting the rest of us. Case closed. Not open for discussion. We have no right to ride. Anywhere. Period. If we get to ride, it's a gift and nothing more. Got no place to ride? Then why'd you buy the bike? Want a place to ride? See number 2 above.

4. Stop the infighting. That's all we do. Anyone who bad mouths fellow ATV riders riding properly in a legal place they ride is off base. Who cares if it's not your style? They're promoting our sport in a positive light. If you don't like the place or the style, then don't go. For instance, you won't find me at L-Cross anytime soon. However, that's not to say I hate it and think the people that attend are retards. Rather, I am glad it's there and hope it stays open forever. It's a place for people to go and enjoy themselves on ATV's in a manner they like. What could be wrong with that? People jump all over the Plex and its participants despite never going. That's just flat out dumb. What's the purpose? So what if Paul and his friends promote it. They're having fun. The comments about the Kool-Aide and other snide remarks only serve to make the people posting it look like fools. You like Bamboo? Great. Have at it. Same for any TT, MX, XC, Mud or other type of track/area open to us. Brag all about it. Tell us how much you like it. Say it's the best to you. I don't care. What matters is that you're having legal fun on your ATV and sharing it with others.

5. Get off the sidelines. Everyone likes to pizz and moan but, nobody wants to do anything. I go to these ORV meetings and none of you ever attend except for 2-3 regulars. Everyone else sits on their butts and complain. Can't attend? Donate money to an organization like the Blue Ribbon Coalition or your local ATV advocate club. Or, write a letter to be read into the record at the ORV meetings expressing how you feel. Better yet, step up and buy a place to ride. Say what you want about Paul, but he did it. Same goes for the other track owners, as well as L-Cross, Bamboo, etc. Nothing speaks louder than putting your money where your mouth is. I've offerred to do it and I have and I do.

6. Work every day to improve our image. Most of you have absolutely no idea how close we are to losing more places to ride. Those who would love to see areas closed to us constantly bring up our image. I've been in meetings involving ATV access and had the opposition pull out pictures of illegal riding at places like the humps, 8th Street, the Stadium, 5a, etc..... I've watched them pull out page after page of FWC incident reports involving ATV's. I've watched them toss onto the table copies of threads from ATV sites (including this site) involving illegal and improper riding. If we do not make significant strides to recover whats left of our image, we'll all be in dire straights when it comes to places to ride.

Anyway, I've got to go to court now and be an attorney. I'll post more later. In the meantime, everyone pull up their big girl pants and start acting like adults. Otherwise, just go away.

You sure you are a lawyer?

thanks Matt

More of the same lame stuff on here. Non Riding Internet ATV Junkies are at it again.

More power to Paul at the Plex. Never been there. Its too far for me to go because I RIDE ILLEGALLY MOST OF THE TIME. I do not need to go north to get my rides in. I also ride a closed golf course at night illegally. I also ride in the Lake Wales Ridge Environmental Area as do a few hundred others.
We were there first. We own property in the county, we have ridden the trails for years and along comes some unregulated group of tree huggers. Screw them and the system. If you think you can unite and make changes in the system your wrong. The first thing the opposition needs to do is read some of these posts and that gives them all the confidence they need in keeping the ATV "community" with out riding areas. Borderline illiterate sprinkled with some occasionally normal chatter. Good Luck.

Welcome back JackL. We needed someone on here that actually rides something and can carry tune.

Later ATV internet junkies. FREE RIDERS R.I.P.

       

This guy really helps us keep our sport alive...... do you think this helps atv's and those of us that fight to have a place to ride

your obviously part of the problem

No I do not think I am part of the problem. I am just a guy that grew up riding everywhere South of Orlando for many years unrestricted. I do not have a problem. I like to ride both closed course and open trails and I feel I have been ripped off by our government.

I will continue to ride Illegally just like most of you have in the past. If you ever rode somewhere that was not a pay to ride or you owned it yourself. YOU WERE RIDING ILLEGALLY!   

   
 

What do you expect, they closed all our spots! haah


What can I say, I have been riding legal, illegal and gray areas same as you my entire life as well. The funny thing is, many illegal spots like McNab, Flamingo Road, Lost Lake, etc, etc were just fine and good for thirty years...that is until they were built/paved or the general public found them.

Florida might as well be split in to two at the lake at this point, because from where tlittle is sitting you probably do look like a problem 'atver', and what you don't get is that tlittle has hundreds of miles of dirt roads he can ride legally as well as thousands of undeveloped acres to play in...like we did in the 70's.


So like always, my jaunts into the swamp and other illegal spots in the middle of the night ain't going to change anything. Doing wheelstands down Krome and US27 will though. Hitting cars in the city don't help us much either.

One thing is for sure, someone needs to buy that property at sw8th ST /157th next to the BBQ place. Damn, it is the best and last area for us and it will be houses unless someone ponys up.

i ride iillagal and proud of it

yes where I live I can get on my bike and ride completely legally, I've been here a whole 3 years of my life, before that I lived right down there with you in south florida, didn't need to ride illegally, if I wanted to ride I load up and drive somewere it's legal even if I had to pay.... if you can't afford to drive to a park or the fee's to get in you need to change your hobbies to meet your lifestyle.
fact is if we all rode legally the parks would have more backbone and be much harder to get closed down due to the amount of support of the riding community, as it is now we only have some hard core L-cross people, motoplex people, croom etc. to stand up for the cause, if everyone was going to the parks, they would get bigger and better and the support would grow for them and better chances for more of them to open,
but by you riding illegally, you make bad publicity, loose support from none riders and can't support the parks you would have choosen to ride= every rider looses

the "I was here first" attitude has never help any cause, it only makes it worse

when I was a kid in so. FL we could get on and ride in many areas, that went away quickly, fact is if your riding on someones property and get hurt you can sue the owner of the property even though your tresspassing and stupid. would you want someone who doesn't care about legallities riding on your property?

You proud to be an American?

proud to be a criminal, congratulations

Hold on now, we have had legal spots (some of the best in Florida) forever until very recently, so I find your comment "if you can't afford to drive to a park or the fee's to get in you need to change your hobbies to meet your lifestyle" total BS. We have had some serious rights taken away from us down here, and frankly 'pay to ride' places are not the solution. wait until one of these park owners has to fend off a multi million dollar lawsuit because some fawkwad who couldn't ride lost his ability to walk.

My tax money goes to maintain a chitpile of public land in Florida, and I am damn sure entitled to use some of it, just like the folks who want to look at bugs, birds and animal scat while dancing naked.



Fact is, riding the pay parks is selling out in MANY folks eyes. Folks who have used the public land for generations and supported the management with taxes.





Every time anything happens, from a car crash to a fishing accident it casts something in a bad light. South Florida is done. No one could ever afford a large enough chunk of property in South Florida to make a decent park, so it is up to the county or state to take care of us, PERIOD.

again who is easier to make happy?
a few atv guys or environmentalists, investors, insurance compaines, and grandma who lives next to the old atv riding place and all the other ignorant people that live in the area. it does suk





anyway, I love you man!.... see you cinco de plex!!!

Again, lets make one thing crystal clear.

You have no "right" to ride. Never have. Never will.

VForce, your reasoning is pathetic. You're part of the problem and you're giving up on doing something positive without even trying. That's being lazy and, quite frankly, stupid. I know you're better than that.

You complain about the tree huggers. Why? Because they got organized and made something happen for themselves? Get off your lazy azz and do something. Or, continue to ride illegally and, when you've eventually received enough tickets or your bikes are confiscated, you can whine about it and how your "rights" ahve been violated. The choice is yours. It's all of ours.

I own property in several counties in Florida. That certainly doesn't give me the right to enter publicly owned property in those counties and ride my ATV's all over it.

Here's another analogy using your flawed reasoning. I used to waterski inside what's now a no-wake/idle only manatee zone in the Manatee River. That's been 20 years ago. So, I was sking there before the no-wake signs went up. Sure as he ll doesn't give me the right to go ski there now.

Let's not be retarded here. I know two of you that claim to ride illegally and be proud of it and know you're just blowing smoke. Nothing good is accomplished by doing so.

And come on, you know darn well that you're giving the sport a bad name by doing so. So, don't be an absolute moron and claim otherwise.

One final thing. Vforce, I guarantee you I've ridden longer and ride more than you do. I absolutely love it. I cannot even count the number of ATV's I've owned over the years. So please, get your facts right before spouting off again. Not only do I ride but, I actually care about ensuring that you have a place to ride too. Only I am actually putting my time, money and efforts where my mouth is.

I completely understand where Vforce is coming from. We lost The Badluck Area and the HoleyLands in the last few years. In life, that is like going from a billionaire to a street bum in one fell swoop, and these were just the last of what was once a real riders paradise.

I could leave my garage on whatever junk I had at the time and go to 100+ awesome gray area riding spots in between the legal ones growing up... I'm just not quite as bitter..

I understand being bitter. I think we've all lost a place to ride or two. But, I think that we can all agree (at least all of us with a positive IQ) that riding illegally (especially on sensitive lands) isn't the answer. It's one thing to protest and get involved. It's an entirely different to be a slob and just not care.

Doing the latter is a blow to all of us.

BTW: How can we help?




I agree. I do believe Collier County and somehow Broward/WPB owe the taxpayers something like Croom....at the very least.

How did that place come about anyway??

Everyone can help by attending those ORV meetings held around the state from time to time and, showing up edicated and informed. You can join groups like the Blue Ribbon Coalition. You can donate money to these types of organizations. You can write letters to your government officials. It works. Look what it's done for our opposition.

Croom is an example of the motorcycle community coming together and getting that area opened up to all of us when created. The FTR fought tooth and nail for it. Because FTR was so well organized and educated, they managed to get the Dept. of agriculture on their side and make it happen.

the problem is  there is no land for ATV to ride on. i don't care if u say   we got good name or bad name.  pick a spot in broward county  to have a spot to ride?  there is none so no matter what u me the other guy jackl or evan zman do there is no spots to set aside. no if ans or buts about it down south we get the middle finger by paying taxes and living a good life.    and the reason is all the dang people this country lets in illegal they rather build 3 blocks of section 8 houses than give back to the good people   and nothing but crime comes out of section 8 homes   look at Miami prime example

Anyone riding 8th street this Sunday?

Impostor.... :L

Only dumbazzes.  ;D

The spot at 8th street is for sale. Will you buy it already????

LMFAO, a few cool folks will be there.  ;)


It is not posted, at least where I have entered.

ok ok ok ill buy it   put big feance up  and only let certin people in to ride or do what ever they want. :-*  than maybe people will like me on hear

Has anyone tried the KFC mashed potatoe bowl?Mmmmmmmmmmm,that's some good stuff.

I know I will always show up almost every day with three cases of Budweiser, two bottles of Evan Williams and a bike that has at least one gear.

Looks gross.

(http://www.kfc.com/menu/images/bowls_potato.jpg)

jack  u along with reality  will be on no  list     you guys will have key to the gate and we dont worry bout bringing beer we will let all the lil girls on this site bring us the beer so they can come ride

Ummm so what are you saying? Your in....

Matt can I get a key?  Ill buy you another trophy  ;)

let me stand next to them girls agian and we got a deal ;)

dang does my bike look so sexy  :-*



joe whens the next  show like that?    i got a new set of tires i need to burn the old ones up

Done!!!  They were asking about you any way.

LMAO, I remember when they built that place and painted it yellow. I feel old now.

Matt sharing is caring Can I be in the next picture lol

gato  just stand next to my bike   she was feelin left out when i was with the girls  and joe   dont tease me  and get my hopes up bout them asking for me

I'm a different kind of dumbazz.


Matt, you rock!

We must Band together or be Banned altogether.

A Trail Bike is no good without Trails."

Well said.

Anyone want to plan an informal meeting for those of us concerned and wanting to do something? This includes you too 4x4Matt.

No set outline. Just a meeting to share thoughts and ideas and maybe begin to get something organized. It's got to start somewhere.

Because we are all so spread out, at first a web site with a forum that is not linked to any of the sites we use. A neutral forum. A moderator that "Removes" all non-topic related posts. No funny business. As Thomas Jefferson said "I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend." In our case "friend" means "a fellow ATV enthusiast".

I would volunteer in any capacity I can.



Well? 

we can use my crib  i got keg of bid light pool table and dart board n  a welder and plenty of power tools in there also   and if u got kids there is   a play ground in the back yard  ;)

Ditto for me.  I would be glad to participate in any positive approach to getting a legal riding area in south FL.  I hate to ride illegal sites, but I like to ride and I'm a risk taker so I tend to ride wherever and whenever I can.  I also have a Big Cyprus permit on both of my quads and ride there as often as I can.  8th St is closer so I ride there too.  Calling us dumbazzes doesn't lend to friendly discussions about the issue IMHO.

I also live right next to the Hump and ride there often.  I've been stopped by FWC and Miami police many times at the Hump but have never been hasseled once I show ID and registration.

dumbazz is not bad    i take it as compliment lol if he said dumba**   than u gotta take offense to it

Well, there's an easy way to solve things.....don't act like a dumbazz and nobody's offended.

I say we meet at a central location. Maybe Naples?  Then some of us can leave and go to Matt's house for a party.

you can start by drowning the ofice of the guy in charge of parks & recreation, Andy McCall's  number is 305-755-7993 and he is very well informed in our situation. And anything else we can form a chat room of somekind to save a drive for another more needed time IMO I am down

just let me no ill do my best to help out  (that means during meetings lock me in the car so i dont mess it up) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

I could do Naples.  Maybe too far for some.  An online forum is good option to start. Being so spread out has its challenge. 

thats the funniest thing you have said. lmao

Wow, this thread took a left turn.

Anyway, I agree with everyone in here.

My suggestion is everyone learn how to access   news://alt.atv and we continue this discussion.

Usenet is un unregulated, unmoderated forum that is perfect for what is being proposed here. Some intelligent and cool folks from all over world there.

LOL, if not I will make AO, Keeter and 4x4matt mods at www.floridabash.com and guarantee no censorship from ANYONE. (Looks dead, guess not)


Think I am going to go sneak the Vinson out on some SFWMD/FPL land now for a little ride after all this rain, those of you who know me know where to find me if you want to hit it.  ;)

If you create it, I will spread the word. Starting with creating new thread. Jeesh!

JackL, there you go again making everyone who rides an ATV look bad. What a dumbazzzz. What time you leaving?? ;D

Jack -

Set up the new site. I am all over it.  ;)

NOW THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets get going.

Guys I dont post much But I am more than willing to get involved in helping.
I live very close to bird road and know the area well.Naples is not out of reach for me either.Maybe we could all meet at Seminole MX and have a large meeting and figure out how we want to attack this thing.Anyways post new forum and I will spread the word to the local shops and riders here in my area.

me a moderater ummm  the power at my finger tips  thanx jackl

Seminole MX might not be too bad either. We'd need to do another meeting futher north at some point too. Maybe Tampa? Seminole is certainly nice for the SE Florida group and a great place to start.

Has to start somewhere. It all sounds good to me.

If we have to meet in person may I suggest a location that is a riding spot so we can make a day or weekend out of it. 

I think it has to start here as Holeylands closed Bird closed soon humps will be closed. I gave an Idea of opening holeylands since they say the area needs time to recover open it every odd or even numbered year but never heard back from SFWMD like I expected

according to fwc holyllands will never open again for recreational riding.... hunting only. camp owners may get a special permit that is being discussed but thats it

I agree.We need to go forward not back.

weekend sounds good we all should meet   talk and ride and have good time on our atvs while come in up with ideas to open up more areas. Now where can we all meet and ride and camp for weekend? just let me no when and where and i am there.

Everyone here have an ORV sticker for the Big Cypress?

I do not because my 4x4 has no breaks and can not pass inspection.  Do you no if they will let my other bike pass  its 2wd 400cc bike has working lights and breaks front tires are lil over 7 inches wide

Believe it or not, you don't need brakes to pass.

Anybody know how far from Boca the entrance to Big Cypress is?

LOL, I lost my title some time ago. I am going to try and contact the owner and get a new one ASAP so I can get one.

but you need lights right?    i dont got none   and i got no fenders on my 4x4 either   its sitting on  7 inch wide rice and cane tires with over inch lug on them   ;D

Ok, if you build it they will come?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atv/topics

This is the easiest way to access the usenet, the last wild west on the internet where censorship does not exist is through google. The preferred way to access it is through outlook and your ISP server, but google works. I posted a few test messages there to see if anyone can find them.


I have also tried to fix up a forum.

http://floridaoffroad.tk/

You, AO and a few others would make great mods on this completly UNCENSORED forum. At least we can post naked pics. lol

Can we still get prv permits for the big cypress or is it closed till July?
I grew up in Bear Island unit on Turner River Road but just havnt got my sticker on my RZR.I did call and I am still in the computer so it should be fairly painless.Only thing is I will be needing like 5 ORV permits.

The preserve gets closed for May - July. Only property owners allowed inside the preserve at that time. And then, only to travel directly to their camp and out. No riding around.

JackL -

I've responded to the threads on Google. Ready to go man!

I am about to move my rear 26x12x12's to the front of my bike. I am concerned the front wheels aren't wide enough, but hopefully it will make them a bit taller so the new 27" gators I have for the rear line up perfectly.  ;)


So, yes I do believe I will be ready. I may just have a front locker as well. I do have a reputation to uphold.

 

i so lost  some post link to where i need to go

Matt -

Just click on this:  http://floridaoffroad.tk/

Jack, I am all set up. You da man!

I am signed up as well. But I will continue to ride in questionable areas and I promise I will not disturb the Tortoise, or the Blue Peckered Florida Fich. But I will take a shot at a stinky old hog with my new Sig Sauer P250 in the 40 Cal mode. The 9MM shot just does not work as well in the P250.     

Good to see that Realityhello is gone, what a homo.

I agree, he was saying mean things to me. I think he is pretty tight with Analoriginal

k it wont let me do it from my dang school board firewall  :'(

i will sing up first thing sat morning   ;D

I signed in but I do not see how to reply?

At the time I looked when I wrote this there were 1508 views lets see if we can do more than just read. I know it is not easy but only nothing can come out of nothing. We at atvmiaxtreme may be planning a talk if any of you are willing and able to come when it is planned you are welcome in my book.

I know some outside Miami live further but lets try to set something up and the ones further we fill in and maybe count them in on the ride for more important times when we need head counts that matter

I will be out there between 2-3pm if anyone is interested?

Is there anyone going to see what is going on at 8th street this weekend as to the parking?

I was there this morning and told the people out there about the FWC writing tickets and giving people summons to appear in court for trespassing. They were appreciative for the info. I will be back between 2-3pm  I hope to meet with some people out there. I will be along  s.w.40st  between 157ave and 162 ave next to the power station.

What I hear from FWC is that the signs are not yet posted so they should not be giving anything but warnings. However it is not recomended to ride out there.  All that land is owned by South Florida Water Management and they are the ones that are not allowing us to ride anymore.

your welcome

why don't we all chip in and make a plex for down here? I can offer some time on weekends...

I do I do. When is the next ride. I am looking at this weekend. You in. Anyone in?

Thanks  Jack. I am in.

jack i am retarded cause i cant figuer it out

Yeah, he was a clown. Good riddance.  ;)

LMAO