PR2 Throttle body spacer question

[HolyLandMan]

i have a 08 civic si v-tec. And i wanna make it even quicker than it already is. so im getting skunk2 full exhaust, injen CAI, and a throttle body spacer. the spacer is only $70 bucks and says it adds 5 hp to the wheels, i know how it works and everything but i was wondering if anyone had anything good/bad to say about them.

[GENERAL-Z]

i have a 08 civic si v-tec. And i wanna make it even quicker than it already is. so im getting skunk2 full exhaust, injen CAI, and a throttle body spacer. the spacer is only $70 bucks and says it adds 5 hp to the wheels, i know how it works and everything but i was wondering if anyone had anything good/bad to say about them.

[Chevy1500z71]

throttle body spacers don't do anything. the idea is from a carb spacer, which gives the fuel and air more time to mix/atomize. but on a multi port injection system, your throttle body is dry and the fuel is injected directly at the end of the manifold. so spacing the throttle body away from the manifold does just about nothing.

[Chevy1500z71]

i have a 08 civic si v-tec. And i wanna make it even quicker than it already is.

are we talking 15 second quick? lol 

[Chillinthemost]

Buy 4 of them, then you would get a 20hp increase.

[Anoriginal]

Better yet, sell it and buy something that has the ability to be made quick. I'd reccomend a 1987 Ford LTD four door. It's already going to be much faster than the rice burner and much cheaper.

[HolyLandMan]

wow guys, all of you are haters. I had a 2002 silverado with a 5.3. Vortec heads, bully dog chip, K&N CAI, super 44 series flowmaster that would woop mustangs and SRT8 chargers with mods, but have you seen gas prices. it cost $90 to fill up, and my mom bought me the honda that smokes mustang GTs and a hole bunch of other thing, and still gets 33 mpg and cost $30 bucks. plus its not a (RICER) its a well build curve carver that will out last, handle, and beat any chevy, ford, or piece dodgethat have less than 1k invested. even though im a chevy kid i like this car and would chose it over any car. it my baby so go burn that gas haters. 

[Chevy1500z71]

wow guys, all of you are haters. I had a 2002 silverado with a 5.3. Vortec heads, bully dog chip, K&N CAI, super 44 series flowmaster that would woop mustangs and SRT8 chargers with mods, but have you seen gas prices. it cost $90 to fill up, and my mom bought me the honda that smokes mustang GTs and a hole bunch of other thing, and still gets 33 mpg and cost $30 bucks. plus its not a (RICER) its a well build curve carver that will out last, handle, and beat any chevy, ford, or piece dodgethat have less than 1k invested. even though im a chevy kid i like this car and would chose it over any car. it my baby so go burn that gas haters. 

gas millage is a good reason.. but whoop mustang gts? thats a stretch, in fact, id bet my heavy ass truck on 35" tires will spank a civic si... no offense, its cool that your trying to save gas, just dont try and tell us its fast lol

o yea, and a 5.3 is an ls based engine, i dont know what your refering to when you say it had vortec heads? and does bully dog make gasser chips too now? they were crappy enough with diesel tuning 

[crom A zone]

i got an f1   that will give u a run for the money

[HolyLandMan]

still hatin. i can hit 133mph in fith gear. the si isnt your regular civic you know. Vortec makes aftermarket heads there were $1300. and yes bully dog does make a chip and it added 32hp and 26ftp of torque on the dyno

[derek330]

i have tuned many honda's and i can tell you the TB spacer is a crock.  the next thing you need to do is have it tuned.  hondata can mod your ECU to be flashed with their program. if you are serious about it shoot me a PM. i usually do my tuning in tallahassee. it will get you more power and better gas mileage. also getting a GOOD header really helps the K motors. but wont do you any good if you don't have a way to tune the
ECU first.

i would be careful about claiming won races. you are jumping into a pool of sharks there.

[svtbolt04]

still hatin. i can hit 133mph in fith gear. the si isnt your regular civic you know. Vortec makes aftermarket heads there were $1300. and yes bully dog does make a chip and it added 32hp and 26ftp of torque on the dyno

My lightning hit 147 in 4th.

While weighing a little under 1800lbs more. Hauling a quad...with the a/c on.

[Chevy1500z71]

my truck will hit 98mph in 3rd lol, i wouldn't want to push the tires further, altho i have my limiter set at 120 right now... its still just a pickup, and your car is still just a ricer. top speed dont mean anything especially when the civic takes about all day to get to 148, proves next to nothing.

sorry to call you out on the heads, the stock heads are so good on that truck i havnt really heard of many people changing them, i bet that was a pretty quick truck.

[Anoriginal]

i have tuned many honda's and i can tell you the TB spacer is a crock.  the next thing you need to do is have it tuned.  hondata can mod your ECU to be flashed with their program. if you are serious about it shoot me a PM. i usually do my tuning in tallahassee. it will get you more power and better gas mileage. also getting a GOOD header really helps the K motors. but wont do you any good if you don't have a way to tune the
ECU first.

i would be careful about claiming won races. you are jumping into a pool of sharks there.

Yeah, it's always funny when people make claims thinking nobody here knows anything about drag racing. I was very serious in it at one time and had a very nice Street Renegade class Mustang. Even traveled a bit to race from time to time. Miss it, but priorities are much different these days.

[klutchbuster400]

My dad and I both have 1500's ext cab, he has the 5.3 and I have the 4.7. I haven't gone over 80 in it for the pure fact thats it's pretty retarded to do so out on the open road. I'm thinking about taking it to a strip soon though. I want to run it against my dad's 5.3 since my truck feels quicker. It might just be the dual flowmasters I have, or the 18 year old ambition that my truck is better then whatever I feel like, but I think I can take it

I'm not a fan of the civic's honestly. It just seems like you could get something faster for cheaper ya know?

[Chevy1500z71]

My dad and I both have 1500's ext cab, he has the 5.3 and I have the 4.7. I haven't gone over 80 in it for the pure fact thats it's pretty retarded to do so out on the open road. I'm thinking about taking it to a strip soon though. I want to run it against my dad's 5.3 since my truck feels quicker. It might just be the dual flowmasters I have, or the 18 year old ambition that my truck is better then whatever I feel like, but I think I can take it

I'm not a fan of the civic's honestly. It just seems like you could get something faster for cheaper ya know?

the civic thing puzzles me becasue its like, who would start with a 90hp econobox and say "lets make it a hotrod!" you could say the same about a big heavy pickup truck, but they come with a beefy v8 drive train. just how i look at it. if it weren't for the fast and the furious movie ricers wouldn't be huge lol. iv never seen a ricer guy who has any real technical knowledge, and holylandman, i wouldn't consider you a ricer guy, you just seem like you dont want to pay for something that gets 8mpg like myself when you could be getting 30mph and still have a car that gets out of its own way. im probably the fool for insisting on needing a truck like mine.

kluchbuster, get a tuner and your 4.8 should be able to take your dads 5.3... now if he gets a tuner and an exhaust, no chance lol. unless maybe his is 2wd and youv got 4x4? idk if youd have any issues spinning the tires anyways tho...

i think you would be extremely surprised what a hand held tuner does for those newer gm trucks, the torque management makes m moms 400hp trailblazer ss feel like a turd...

so the thread has gone from throttle body spacers to truck talk lol

[klutchbuster400]

Yeah I know exactly what you're saying about making a civic a hot rod lol.

Nah my chevy is a 2x4. My old truck was a 94 1500 4x4, a 350 v8 with dual exhaust as well sitting, on a 3" body lift with 33's. That thing was MEAN, and quick as heck. I would have put that truck against a sports car anyday.
My current 1500 spins the tires too easily, but I think thats mostly due to the stockers it has. I've never actually sat there burning out, but the tires spin like crazy sometimes when I step on the pedal a bit too hard when I'm sitting at a light or a stop sign.

[Chevy1500z71]

that old 350 of your was slower, but it will feel a ton beter becasue they have no torque managment, and they make tons of torque, the hp is pethetic, at about 210 at a red line of 4200rpm, mainly they just had the worlds wipyest cam specs, but something around 300ftlbs of toque. if you get a tuner and get rida torque management on the 4.8 you got i bet it will feel as good or beter than the old 350, it will more than likely outrun it. does your 4.8 have a locker? check the glovebox for the g80 code.

[klutchbuster400]

Wow I always thought it was faster since it felt like it had so much more power. I'm not sure on the locker, I'll have to check and get back to ya.

[HolyLandMan]

my truck will hit 98mph in 3rd lol, i wouldn't want to push the tires further, altho i have my limiter set at 120 right now... its still just a pickup, and your car is still just a ricer. top speed dont mean anything especially when the civic takes about all day to get to 148, proves next to nothing.

sorry to call you out on the heads, the stock heads are so good on that truck i havnt really heard of many people changing them, i bet that was a pretty quick truck.

hey look here we have are self a funny guy. if my car was a (ricer) right, you would have no problem beating me right. so you wanna make your way down to moroso one day, and ill show you how little civics get down.

[Chevy1500z71]

only reason i say id beat you is becasue i would imagine my truck runs anywhere from a low to mid 14 second 1/4 mile, not lightening fast, good for 35" tires. and i know a civic si runs about a low 15 second 1/4 mile. im not just assuming i have to win becasue its a ricer. for the most part, pickups and ricers are in about the same territory of slowness, pickups are normally a bit faster stock, the average ricer id say is in the 17-18 second range, id say the average pickup is in the 16 second range. a 15 second ricer, imo is a fast ricer. your civic si is fast... for a civic.

kluch, just look in your glovebox for the g80 code. honestly, your better off without it, they are known for blowing up and/or just not working very well. one wheel peel is better than 2 wheels right before the rear end goes boom.

and yea, your old body style 350 tbi truck you had was probably a good bit slower lol, you wouldnt know it becasue its got so much more grunt way down low, but when it comes to a drag race, they make very little hp and they shift at like 4000rpms, the newer trucks have a much more broad rpm range and really scream on top, they do much better with a higher stall torque converter and taller gears. a 5.3 with a 2800rpm converter, 4.10 gears and a cam will blow the doors off of a lightening, the ls based chevys are very well equipped trucks, they come with a very good starting point, one of the reasons im such a big chevy fan, becasue ford doesn't give you a whole lot to work with as far as the motor goes.

[klutchbuster400]

Do the 4.8's LS based as well? I ask because mine has the ls label on it.

[Chevy1500z71]

Do the 4.8's LS based as well? I ask because mine has the ls label on it.

ls is just your interior trim package lol. by ls based i mean the motor is based off of the ls1 design. first there was the regular small block chevy, like what your 94 had, then the ls1 camaro came out, which evolved into the ls2, all the new truck motors are based off of this designm, and the 6.0 is the exact same motor that was in the base model corvets for years with a diferent intake manifold and cam setup for more torque. the ls based engine just has really good flowing stock heads and a really good multi port injection system. the whole motor is just superior in every way to the old small block chevys in stock trim. once you start to understand what you ger with a chevy, you will understand why the 5.4 triton and hemi make me laugh compared to what chevy gives you. the 4.8 is a good motor, the joe gibs silverado had a 4.8 with a roots supercharger with about 8lbs of boost and it will run with a lightening which also has 8lbs of boost, but ford uses there bigest engine package where chevy only needs the little guy to compete, becasue if they gave you a 6.0 with 8lbs of boost it would out do the corvet in hp ratings... both the new ls based chevy smallblock and the old small blocks you got in the older trucks are awesome engines and the after market for them is just uncomparable. if your a gearhead, you know chevy is where its at, but thats just my opinion <sofa peeky>

sorry to sound like a salesman for chevy, i cant help it...

[HolyLandMan]

so you think your truck would beat my car. the new civics aren't ricers any more, when u think of a ricer you probably think of a car with a huge spoiler, body kit, loud exhaust and when u punch it it sounds like your going an  100mph faster than it really is. but whatever you can think whatever you want cause i know for a fact your truck even with a super charger wouldn't even be a close race, because id totally own your life of the start than you would never catch me in a drag race.

[Chevy1500z71]

so you think your truck would beat my car. the new civics aren't ricers any more, when u think of a ricer you probably think of a car with a huge spoiler, body kit, loud exhaust and when u punch it it sounds like your going an  100mph faster than it really is. but whatever you can think whatever you want cause i know for a fact your truck even with a super charger wouldn't even be a close race, because id totally own your life of the start than you would never catch me in a drag race.

thats funny, i would think your car would do much better on the second half of the track. my truck is all torque, and with 4.56 gears, a locker, 4x4, and about 450 pound feet of torque at a very low rpm with a 1500stall converter, not much gets me out of the hole.

im running this motor pretty much at its limits right now with about 13pounds of boost, i run it up to 5300rpms, and i spray methanol. im gonna be building a 383 stroker motor for it in the future, so i put this motor through hell. all of its power is on boost really, and im not proud of that, boost is horse opower life support lol, i need a cam and heads before i can make some real power