Vote on president!!tables are turning on obama mcain all the way

Started by GENERAL-Z, June 18, 2008, 07:00:18 PM

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who do you want as president

John McCain
84 (84%)
Barack Obama
16 (16%)

Total Members Voted: 96

JackL

Quote from: Chevy1500z71 on June 18, 2008, 09:44:31 PM
the religion is death to the infidels, Christians and Jews. the want one thin, world domination for Muslims. the whole religions revolves around killing people really.

he wrote in his own book "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"

theres no way around it, your insane if you vote for this guy...

and your video is kinda funny...


"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

Pretty scary, coming from a U.S. Senator running for President of the United States.

That quote from Barack Obama's book, The Audacity Of Hope, is splattered all over the Internet, particularly on hundreds of blogging sites and e-mails, denigrating the senator and pleading with folks to prevent his ascension to the Oval Office, at all costs.

First, my position: I am opposed to the election of Mr. Obama, for a number of reasons. I feel an Obama presidency would be a major mistake. I am not among those who are aglow with oratory eloquence and charisma that so often electrifies people into a false sense of love and security. To my way of thinking, there are too many red flags about the man which causes great skepticism.

But, for the sake of blogger credibility and honest reporting, I must stand up for the senator in this one issue. The quotation is incorrect and totally out of context. Such spreading of false statements cause great damage to the credibility of those who try to impart valid information.

I obtained a copy of The Audacity Of Hope for the expressed purpose of seeing for myself that if this was true. After all, it is cited in hundreds of web sites. Sure enough, on page 261, Senator Obama writes about the problems of profiling and discrimination against American citizens of mid-east descent. This is the exact text:

"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly: they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during WWII, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

It is clear that Senator Obama did not use the term "Muslims," anywhere in the paragraph. He was referring to American Arabs and Pakistanis, in general, thousands of whom have resided in this country for decades. Some have fought and defended this country in uniform. Some may be Muslim, some may be Christian.

It saddens me because I am one of those bloggers who seeks trust from my readers, who tries to ensure accuracy in whatever I impart, and who is angry at incompetents who try to sway public opinion by manipulating and skewing facts that are not facts at all. It hurts us all.

Sometime in the future, I may write a more comprehensive article on the reasons why I feel Barack Obama would be a mistake for America. Whether you agree with the opinion or not, I will assure my readers that any and all information within is verifiable.

Meanwhile, be careful about believing everything that comes across your e-mail circuit. The Obama candidacy — or any candidacy — would benefit from becoming the victim of wrongful accusations.

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Quote from: Chevy1500z71 on June 18, 2008, 10:14:57 PM
still not locked yet...
IM SUPRISED EVERYONE IS HANDLING IT WELL. IM NOT TRYING TO START ANT TROUBLE IM JUST CONCERNED ON WHAT THE WOULD WILL BE LIKE WHEN IM IN MY 20s AND WANT TO SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE SO I CAN PREDICT WHAT I WILL HAVE TO DO.
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Anoriginal

Niether one of them are great. However, Obama is a disgrace. In this race, McCain is the lesser of two evils.

GrizzlyGator

Quote from: Anoriginal on June 19, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
Niether one of them are great. However, Obama is a disgrace. In this race, McCain is the lesser of two evils.


fwiw.....agreed

Fox17

"Vote on president!! i want to see how people are on here and how they feel"

this is how i feel.

yunt2ride

McCain= 35
Obama= 10

And all you hear from the media is how Obama is tied or ahead of McCain in the polls. Does anyone ever get to be in any of these polls or ever seen one of these polls that the media talks aboiut. The media tries to put who they want in office.
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Fox17

Quote from: yunt2ride on June 19, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
McCain= 35
Obama= 10

And all you hear from the media is how Obama is tied or ahead of McCain in the polls. Does anyone ever get to be in any of these polls or ever seen one of these polls that the media talks aboiut. The media tries to put who they want in office.

exactly. ive never seen any of these. never will either. they probably just ask who will give them more $ to say their party is leading.

quadracer1992

Quote from: Chevy1500z71 on June 18, 2008, 09:44:31 PM
the religion is death to the infidels, Christians and Jews. the want one thin, world domination for Muslims. the whole religions revolves around killing people really.

he wrote in his own book "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"

theres no way around it, your insane if you vote for this guy...

and your video is kinda funny...
Oh. In that case never mind I guess my history class lies.
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Quote from: yunt2ride on June 19, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
McCain= 35
Obama= 10

And all you hear from the media is how Obama is tied or ahead of McCain in the polls. Does anyone ever get to be in any of these polls or ever seen one of these polls that the media talks aboiut. The media tries to put who they want in office.
Because there not to many women on this site and we all know they like the dark meat.
Post this on a hair stylist forum and I bet Obama wins in a land slide. ;)
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Quote from: trx#9 on June 19, 2008, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: yunt2ride on June 19, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
McCain= 35
Obama= 10

And all you hear from the media is how Obama is tied or ahead of McCain in the polls. Does anyone ever get to be in any of these polls or ever seen one of these polls that the media talks aboiut. The media tries to put who they want in office.
Because there not to many women on this site and we all know they like the dark meat.
Post this on a hair stylist forum and I bet Obama wins in a land slide. ;)

How clever!

TRX450R_Racer

The lazy white man won't come out and voice his opinion until election day. Those polls are useless as far as I concerned. I don't think Obama has a chance.
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brocker

Just a thought.  Maybe any topic in political nature started by a kid not old enough to vote should be ignored.  ;)

Chevy1500z71

Quote from: brocker on June 19, 2008, 01:28:49 PM
Just a thought.  Maybe any topic in political nature started by a kid not old enough to vote should be ignored.  ;)

why, its just a simple pole. i dont care who posted it it accomplishes the same thing, we get to see a poll and see who will be getting more votes. the kid never started any trouble...

TRX450R_Racer

Quote from: Chevy1500z71 on June 19, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
Quote from: brocker on June 19, 2008, 01:28:49 PM
Just a thought.  Maybe any topic in political nature started by a kid not old enough to vote should be ignored.  ;)

why, its just a simple pole. i dont care who posted it it accomplishes the same thing, we get to see a poll and see who will be getting more votes. the kid never started any trouble...

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yunt2ride

Quote from: TRX450R_Racer on June 19, 2008, 12:28:41 PM
The lazy white man won't come out and voice his opinion until election day. Those polls are useless as far as I concerned. I don't think Obama has a chance.


Don't bet on your thinking then. With all of the legal immigrants, gays, lesbians, blacks, women, treehuggers, enviromentalists and politically correct people out there. He could win by a landslide. Even a lot of white men will help him get there knowing that he is a racist.
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rdm225

I think the majority of voters in this country are old school white people they will never elect a black man with a muslim name.

JackL

Quote from: yunt2ride on June 19, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
McCain= 35
Obama= 10

And all you hear from the media is how Obama is tied or ahead of McCain in the polls. Does anyone ever get to be in any of these polls or ever seen one of these polls that the media talks aboiut. The media tries to put who they want in office.


Are you kidding me?

What do you expect the results to be here on ATVF? The fact that this poll doesn't show McCain at 100% here in the land of God, Guns and Glory should scare the hell out of you my friend.
I am very surprised by the current numbers here, and I suspect many people are refraining from voting because they think they might be exposed as an Obama supporter AKA Muslim terrorist supporter.

I was confident McCain was going to win until I looked at these numbers right here, now I am not so sure.




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MedicMudder

I think my last post got sent in the vast wasteland,but I hate to be the one to defend BHO but he is not a Muslim his father was.He did attent a Muslim school when he was very young.Is he a total bedwettin leftist,socialist,huge goverment Dem,you bettcha!!! If he had his way he would turn most private companys over to the goverment.Plus take all the wealth from the folks that made it.He is pro gun controll,anti capitalist,he would turn all the forest over to the leaf lickers,goodby rideing in any forest.
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I don't like either one of them but if I had to pick one it would be obama.if you plan on voting for mccain you better do your research and not vote for him just because he was in the military.
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yunt2ride

Quote from: JackL on June 19, 2008, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: yunt2ride on June 19, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
McCain= 35
Obama= 10

And all you hear from the media is how Obama is tied or ahead of McCain in the polls. Does anyone ever get to be in any of these polls or ever seen one of these polls that the media talks aboiut. The media tries to put who they want in office.


Are you kidding me?

What do you expect the results to be here on ATVF? The fact that this poll doesn't show McCain at 100% here in the land of God, Guns and Glory should scare the hell out of you my friend.
I am very surprised by the current numbers here, and I suspect many people are refraining from voting because they think they might be exposed as an Obama supporter AKA Muslim terrorist supporter.

I was confident McCain was going to win until I looked at these numbers right here, now I am not so sure.






I agree with you on this but there are different people in every state. You get some hard core democrats and if Osama Bin Laden were to run for president in the democrat election, they are hardcore and still would vote democrat. The same goes for hard core republicans. Also keep in mind that you can drive from the Keys to Panama City and find a wide variety of different people. Including a bunch of New Yorkers who vote in Florida just to throw off the electorials. I vote for who I think is the best person for the job or the lesser of the evils.
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Quote from: Fox17 on June 19, 2008, 11:21:24 AM
"Vote on president!! i want to see how people are on here and how they feel"

this is how i feel.

ya we used to do that with osama's picture now its obama shave the beard and change one letter and it could be father and son did any of ya'll see him in his native ''attire'' he looked like a freekin
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JackL

Quote from: yunt2ride on June 19, 2008, 04:34:06 PM
I agree with you on this but there are different people in every state. You get some hard core democrats and if Osama Bin Laden were to run for president in the democrat election, they are hardcore and still would vote democrat. The same goes for hard core republicans. Also keep in mind that you can drive from the Keys to Panama City and find a wide variety of different people. Including a bunch of New Yorkers who vote in Florida just to throw off the electorials. I vote for who I think is the best person for the job or the lesser of the evils.

One thing is for sure, this will be the most exciting election season we have had in a long time, if ever.
I am looking forward to the debates and campaign spending to begin. I love mudslinging. ;)

No matter the outcome our government has enough checks and balances that I am not really worried about my way of life, and neither should anyone.


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GENERAL-Z

Quote from: Fox17 on June 19, 2008, 11:21:24 AM
"Vote on president!! i want to see how people are on here and how they feel"

this is how i feel.

i see that
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