Water 4 Gas

Started by yunt2ride, March 28, 2008, 10:36:53 AM

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TRX450R_Racer

I'm about 1/2 way through my 1st tank of fuel since the install. I definitely see an increase in mileage. I will post my gains soon.
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big-daddy

We have another Winner!  ;D
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jrpro130

I'll have mine in this week :)

I got a scangauge too so I'll post results of before MPG and after MPG both on scangauge and vs actual miles driven
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jrpro130

I got all hooked up.

Now I'm just wonderin about the MAP sensor aduster.  I have a MAF on my truck, so can I use it for the 02 sensors or the MAF sensor? I don't even know what wire it is, I lost my haynes manual.

Is there anyone who has alldata or anything that can look it up? I'd appreciate it.  I just need to know the wire for the MAF sensor (the sensor wire), there should be 5 or 6 all together.

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JackL

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 01:15:33 PM
I got all hooked up.

Now I'm just wonderin about the MAP sensor aduster.  I have a MAF on my truck, so can I use it for the 02 sensors or the MAF sensor? I don't even know what wire it is, I lost my haynes manual.

Is there anyone who has alldata or anything that can look it up? I'd appreciate it.  I just need to know the wire for the MAF sensor (the sensor wire), there should be 5 or 6 all together.



You will like this:
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/CleanMAF.html
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jrpro130

I'm on that site :)

I'm still confused tho, it's looking like sensor 36 would be it...but then 88 puts out variable voltage as well!
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Snorkel/Radiator Relocated, 29.5's, Muzzy, PCIII, UNI, and a few other custom mods

JackL

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 02:44:33 PM
I'm on that site :)

I'm still confused tho, it's looking like sensor 36 would be it...but then 88 puts out variable voltage as well!


Big Daddy built the circuit you need I think. It appears the ECU is looking at C & D in the connector at the MAF for around 0 - 2v One positive, one negative. A & B power it. I would bet some sort of factoring is done for this voltage at the computer like in a GM computer. I'm not sure if you want to add or subtract from this value to lean out the mixture a bit, but that is where you would do it.

I think you can program everything on that truck through the ODB2 port. I would go that direction. It is way more fun. ;)

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big-daddy

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 01:15:33 PM
I got all hooked up.

Now I'm just wonderin about the MAP sensor aduster.  I have a MAF on my truck, so can I use it for the 02 sensors or the MAF sensor? I don't even know what wire it is, I lost my haynes manual.

Is there anyone who has alldata or anything that can look it up? I'd appreciate it.  I just need to know the wire for the MAF sensor (the sensor wire), there should be 5 or 6 all together.



The one that goes to the oxygen sensor is different than the one for the MAP/MAF   
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big-daddy

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 02:44:33 PM
I'm on that site :)

I'm still confused tho, it's looking like sensor 36 would be it...but then 88 puts out variable voltage as well!

If the plug look like the one Jack posted its the RTNMAF wire you have to cut. The lower the voltage the leaner it gets. Too low and it will set off your CEL. 
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coolcloo1019

Has anyone done this on a Trailblazer? I'd love to try it out but with how particular the electrical system is on this truck, I'd almost be afraid. It doesn't need to run anymore lean than it already does.
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big-daddy

First question is do you have for the HHO generator?
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TRX450R_Racer

I filled up this morning.

14.3 MPG was 12-13 so that's 10%-20% increase. It definitly feels like I don't have to get on it as much to get it/keep it rolling. I know Ron's mileage got better on the second tank full. We will see what happens. Then I will start adding electronics.
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big-daddy

Great Frank...... I'll have the rest of the parts need to finish my oxygen sensor Mod on Wednesday and will install it on the F150 that day. I'm going to start with one item at a time. install it , fine tune it and then more to the next one which will be the IAT and ECT sensors.   
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TRX450R_Racer

Why do you need to mess with the coolant temp sensor?
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big-daddy

Quote from: TRX450R_Racer on June 16, 2008, 09:24:26 AM
Why do you need to mess with the coolant temp sensor?

Adding 10 degrees to the sender make it seem its running hotter and lean the mix, also with the intake air temp
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redsoxjeep99

Big daddy i noticed that you have a tj. I also have a tj and am planning on putting the hydrogen system on my jeep as soon as Wednesday but i was wondering if you had installed the system on your jeep and if you have, what kind of gains have you been seeing and do you have any suggestions before I install.  Is it completely necessary to get the map sensor enhancer something to trick the oxygen sensor

big-daddy

Quote from: redsoxjeep99 on June 16, 2008, 11:23:42 PM
Big daddy i noticed that you have a tj. I also have a tj and am planning on putting the hydrogen system on my jeep as soon as Wednesday but i was wondering if you had installed the system on your jeep and if you have, what kind of gains have you been seeing and do you have any suggestions before I install.  Is it completely necessary to get the map sensor enhancer something to trick the oxygen sensor

Welcome to the site.  ;D


I get about 20+ MPG on the TJ after installing the HHO system, before the best was 15 MPH. My generator is located under the master Cly, remove the extra battery cover and your go to go. Yes you need the map and oxy enhancer to fine tune the system. Good Luck 
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suzukitrash

Got mine in but no big tests yet. Still need to measure and fine tune everything, but it is working. BigDaddy let me know when you get the electronics done for the f150. I have an f250 with the 5.4 in it and would like to get that taken care of if you would build me something or give me some advice.

TRX450R_Racer

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yunt2ride

Looks good, keep us updated
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suzukitrash

How many amps is realistic with one generator. I did not test for amperage but I put in a 7.5 amp fuse and it blew after about a mile.

zobel929

is that f350 super duty gas or diesel?

yunt2ride

Quote from: zobel929 on June 22, 2008, 04:56:49 AM
is that f350 super duty gas or diesel?


The one that Bushwacker has is a diesel.
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suzukitrash

Mine that I posted is gas

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