What's the deal?

[Anoriginal]

Okay, so I am beginning to get bored. Nobody is arguing or posting idiotic stuff that warrants sarcasm and mental flogging. Come on folks! Can't someone start some in depth debates on a subject near and dear to many?   

[Keeter]

I believe that our society becoming dumber. The number of intelligent people are declining. There is is just too much idiocracy in the word to ignore this epidemic.   :banghead.gif

[1FasterBlaster]

  How about how the hell can we stop the price of crude oil. After all, we freed a Dam country and we're killing all their scumbags for them. You'd think somebody would break us off!!

[Slick89]

Garfield, Re: the oil crisis



A lot of folks can't understand how we came

to have an oil shortage here in our country.

~~~

Well, there's a very simple answer.

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Nobody bothered to check the oil.

~~~

We just didn't know we were getting low.

~~~

The reason for that is purely geographical.

~~~

Our OIL is located in

~~~

ALASKA

~~~

California

~~~

Coastal Florida

~~~

Coastal Louisiana

~~~

Kansas

~~~

Oklahoma

~~~

Pennsylvania

and

Texas

~~~

Our

DIPSTICKS

are located in

Washington, DC!!!

Any Questions???

..... Didn't think So.

[Anoriginal]

Hmmm, thats all good stuff and I can't disagree with any of it.


How about this?

I think the Catholic Church is inherently evil and promulgates falsehoods based upon religious beliefs.

[PREDOCROSS]

 

[Anoriginal]

Yep. Catholicism is a total lie.

[backinsaddle]

Yep. Catholicism is a total lie.

I have to disagree, Catholicism, along with most other religions, are not a total lie, it's the interpretation and use of the religion on an organized basis for personal/political gain that's a total lie.  The same people you see in Church on Sunday are the same people trying to screw over their neighbor the minute the leave.

[Anoriginal]

Maybe the use of the word "total" was stretching it a bit.

[trx#9]

Religion period, is all BS.

[Da_Mtg_Man]

There's a bill in front of Congress right now that they are trying to pass a law that makes it illegal to have a Catholic church within 500 ft of an elementary school....

[trx#9]

When Clinton left office gas was $1.42 a gallon. I miss those day's

[Hoosier Daddy]

But cigar prices were on the rise 

[Anoriginal]

Well, my point on the Catholic Church is that they base their interpretations on complete falsehoods.

And, I am not making an argument for any of my personal beliefs here. Just pointing out hypocrisy.

Examples:

The word "catholic" is not in the bible.

Bible says nothing about Jesus being catholic.

No such thing in the bible as a pope

No such thing in the bible as mass.

No such thing in the bible as confession.

No such thing in the bible as purgatory.

The Bible never says anything about tithing to "buy" your way out of purgatory and into heaven.

Bible makes no mention of Mary being catholic.

Catholicism advocates "praying" to dead "saints"....the bible prohibits this entirely.

Catholicism basically instills the belief that one can "buy" their way into heaven with giving to the church and through good acts. However, this is the same Church that made (and is still making) conscious attempts to cover up rampant child molestation through it's ranks. In addition, you can't find a place in the bible where giving will get you into heaven.

[Keeter]

Anoriginal, I hate to say this but your point about the Catholic Church was faced during the Age of Enlightenment. We all know what happened then. Old News good friend.

[renmus]

Well, my point on the Catholic Church is that they base their interpretations on complete falsehoods.

And, I am not making an argument for any of my personal beliefs here. Just pointing out hypocrisy.

Examples:

The word "catholic" is not in the bible.

Bible says nothing about Jesus being catholic.

No such thing in the bible as a pope

No such thing in the bible as mass.

No such thing in the bible as confession.

No such thing in the bible as purgatory.

The Bible never says anything about tithing to "buy" your way out of purgatory and into heaven.

Bible makes no mention of Mary being catholic.

Catholicism advocates "praying" to dead "saints"....the bible prohibits this entirely.

Catholicism basically instills the belief that one can "buy" their way into heaven with giving to the church and through good acts. However, this is the same Church that made (and is still making) conscious attempts to cover up rampant child molestation through it's ranks. In addition, you can't find a place in the bible where giving will get you into heaven.

perhaps this is why I am a lasped Catholic.

[Keeter]

If I can elaborate.  When a plague spread across Europe, people went to the Catholic Church praying for help from God. When the people realized that the church could not help them they stop believing the church and people like Martin Luther became popular because they brought new ideas.  I could use this a a reference to GWB. People became wise to his BS and  are very ready for new ideas..change.

[Anoriginal]

Anoriginal, I hate to say this but your point about the Catholic Church was faced during the Age of Enlightenment. We all know what happened then. Old News good friend.

Good point, but I am not sure how an 18th Century push in western philosophy impacts today's ongoing issues. The only thing that happened to the Catholic Church at the end of the 18th Century was an increase in membership and control [albeit to a lesser growth rate than previously enjoyed].

Now, if we're talking the 16th century and the era of reformation, Luther, Calvin..etc. That's a different story. However, the only thing that resulted from reformation was a split in the church into equally bizzare religions not based on the bible (like  the Lutherans, The Reformed, The Calivinists, Presbyterians, etc.) with the Catholic Church remaining the most powerful and bizzare of all. All of this started with Luther challenging the Catholic Church's creed and practices by posting his own set of "rules" on a catholic church.

God I love world history.

[Keeter]

Very well said!!  You were very loaded for the response you gave. Critical thinking.

[Sleazy_Rider78]

Being Catholic I would love to engage in this conversation but unfortunately work does not allow me the time to respond right now.  I will put together a well thought out response later tonight to address Anoriginal's concerns.

[TRX450R_Racer]

Garfield, Re: the oil crisis



A lot of folks can't understand how we came

to have an oil shortage here in our country.

~~~

Well, there's a very simple answer.

~~~

Nobody bothered to check the oil.

~~~

We just didn't know we were getting low.

~~~

The reason for that is purely geographical.

~~~

Our OIL is located in

~~~

ALASKA

~~~

California

~~~

Coastal Florida

~~~

Coastal Louisiana

~~~

Kansas

~~~

Oklahoma

~~~

Pennsylvania

and

Texas

~~~

Our

DIPSTICKS

are located in

Washington, DC!!!

Any Questions???

..... Didn't think So.

Hmmm, thats all good stuff and I can't disagree with any of it.


How about this?

I think the Catholic Church is inherently evil and promulgates falsehoods based upon religious beliefs.

Yep. Catholicism is a total lie.

There's a bill in front of Congress right now that they are trying to pass a law that makes it illegal to have a Catholic church within 500 ft of an elementary school....

Well, my point on the Catholic Church is that they base their interpretations on complete falsehoods.

And, I am not making an argument for any of my personal beliefs here. Just pointing out hypocrisy.

Examples:

The word "catholic" is not in the bible.

Bible says nothing about Jesus being catholic.

No such thing in the bible as a pope

No such thing in the bible as mass.

No such thing in the bible as confession.

No such thing in the bible as purgatory.

The Bible never says anything about tithing to "buy" your way out of purgatory and into heaven.

Bible makes no mention of Mary being catholic.

Catholicism advocates "praying" to dead "saints"....the bible prohibits this entirely.

Catholicism basically instills the belief that one can "buy" their way into heaven with giving to the church and through good acts. However, this is the same Church that made (and is still making) conscious attempts to cover up rampant child molestation through it's ranks. In addition, you can't find a place in the bible where giving will get you into heaven.

Well, my point on the Catholic Church is that they base their interpretations on complete falsehoods.

And, I am not making an argument for any of my personal beliefs here. Just pointing out hypocrisy.

Examples:

The word "catholic" is not in the bible.

Bible says nothing about Jesus being catholic.

No such thing in the bible as a pope

No such thing in the bible as mass.

No such thing in the bible as confession.

No such thing in the bible as purgatory.

The Bible never says anything about tithing to "buy" your way out of purgatory and into heaven.

Bible makes no mention of Mary being catholic.

Catholicism advocates "praying" to dead "saints"....the bible prohibits this entirely.

Catholicism basically instills the belief that one can "buy" their way into heaven with giving to the church and through good acts. However, this is the same Church that made (and is still making) conscious attempts to cover up rampant child molestation through it's ranks. In addition, you can't find a place in the bible where giving will get you into heaven.

perhaps this is why I am a lasped Catholic.

So whos going riding this weekend?

[Keeter]

Being Catholic I would love to engage in this conversation but unfortunately work does not allow me the time to respond right now.  I will put together a well thought out response later tonight to address Anoriginal's concerns.

I look forward to an educated debate. One rule though, no Ad Hominem.

[Slick89]

Being Catholic I would love to engage in this conversation but unfortunately work does not allow me the time to respond right now.  I will put together a well thought out response later tonight to address Anoriginal's concerns.

Don't hurt yourself. Thinking can be very painful for some people. Just look at our President!

[shogun323]

I look forward to an educated debate. One rule though, no Ad Hominem.

2 Rules. Never forget the Godwin Law!!!

[Keeter]

I look forward to an educated debate. One rule though, no Ad Hominem.

2 Rules. Never forget the Godwin Law!!!

Oh Great! a Hitler reference