What now we can't talk about Suburban Estates either? 

I would find that really laughable.  Especially sense, Four Wheeldrive magazine just did a big write up on Suburban Estates.  Even listing a website where to buy property.

Everyone just needs to remember:

Suburban Estates is PRIVATE PROPERTY. As such, by Florida law, you are entitled access to YOUR lot. As far as Four Wheeldrive Mag coming out, I'm sure they came out with a landowner, but I'm also sure they didn't go directly to that landowner's lot for their pics.

It blows my mind, the mentality of some people. Are you looking for a place to ride, or are you looking for a great family place to enjoy the great outdoors, camp, and spend time with family and friends? If it's the first reason, LOOK ELSEWHERE, but if it's the second, then I hope when you do buy your lot, you extend all the courtesy and respect to the other owners that you do to your neighbors in the subdivision where you live.

And as for the original questions brought on in the first post of this topic:


1.The peice of property that is purchased(will be at least 1.25acres) is it the peice of property you build your camp on?

YES, it SHOULD be. With this age of GPS, it is possible to pinpoint your property to within 10 ft. With that possible, should you construct a lot elsewhere, you take the chance of the landowner of the lot you construct it on to either take it over, destroy it, or it be sold to someone else.

2.How many people are able to be on one deed?

Osceola County allows up to 4 on the deed, but I recommend only yourself and you wife/husband or son/daughter. Once you start adding more people, the harder it becomes later to sell if you need. Also, HEED THIS: Make sure you get a Warranty Deed, not Quit Claim. The difference: ANYONE can Quit Claim you a lot, even without owning the land. All they are doing is assigning any right (even if they have none) to you. At least with a Warranty Deed, they warrant that they are the rightful owners of the land. ALSO: Do a Title search!!

3. How well do 2x4 trucks get in?

Not well at all right now. It is real dry, and then it will become real wet. If you know the trails good enough, you can always get around. I recommend 4x4.

4. There isn't any "guest passes" is there? Or is it just any guest that come with you have to be with you?

No guest passes (Yet). Just remember to instruct your guests to extend every courtesy to other owners as they would at your house.

5. How many acres is there? I seen 10k acres on ebay and I thought it was more than that but might be wrong...

About 11K, minus about 600 acres in the middle not accessable.

6. What is it like durning hunting season out there?

Well that depends. If you're a hunter, it sucks. If you're a camper, it's great! If you're a rider, it's DANGEROUS.

FYI ...warning You should discuss this issue on the S/E forum and not speak of ATVFlorida 

Actually, this is appropriate here too. This is a great forum as it's used by thousands of outdoor enthusiasts that are not only looking for a place to ride, but also looking to CONSERVE these places.

As the state of Florida slowly closes public riding places and/or envelops them into "conservation" areas, the desire for "private" riding land is at an all-time high. Unfortunatly, alot of these private lands aren't large enough for the demand. At this point, it takes common sense, as well as courtesy for fellow landowners to try to keep some order to your riding experience.

As mentioned in a previous post, most landowners at SE shun the thought of a public announcement for a group ride, as it invites many non-owners with NO INVESTMENT in the area, and could attract the one ore two bad apples in the group, causing problems for everyone. But, that said, most LANDOWNERS would love to participate in a group ride, as they share THREE common points of interest:
1) Riding
2) The great outdoors
3) Conserving the area for future rides

As far as SuburbanEstates.net is concerned, all land-owners and their guests (read close personal friends) are welcome to join and share thoughts and pictures.

fishingurl04,

If you'd post something about a group ride on the SE board, you'd probably get some fellow landowners interested to meet new fellow LO's and go riding. If you haven't applied for membership to the LO's section, do it and post there.

The best way to meet new people is to introduce yourself and offer beer! 

The biggest that they allow through  the gate at RR is 8x40.

Aaaah....to HELL with basic property rights!

The days of the $1500 RR lots are over! The last 2 months tax deed auctions reflected this. Last month, about 90 lots sold, 1.25 acre for around $1050 each, and 2.5 acre for $1400. On Thursday's sale, lots were > $3000!!!!!

So, people are gonna flip at Mike's price, but you better get it while you can! I expect prices to go up over $4500 in the next several weeks.

On note:

As the people buying these lots know whether there are any government liens on them, one way to ensure a clear title is to demand a Warranty Deed. If the person selling only offers Quit-Claim, beware!!

The worst type of lien that may be attached is a code enforcement lien. While last month, the county offered to clear the lien off any parcel for $1000, this month they made no such offer! What does that mean? That means that with the prices that these parcels have been selling for, they can now afford to forclose on that parcel to recover, and are guaranteed the resale value after forclosure will still be high!

I am not an attorney, and this is just my opinion, not to be construed as legal advise. As the purchase of any property is an important event, check with your own attorney as to the risks.

  Hi kawGIRL

New website for RR owners and their guests:

http://riverranchacres.net

Please submit your pics!