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For any of you that haven't been there yet you really need to check it out. It is 11000 acres of riding, with deep mud, river riding and miles and miles of trails for the sport quads. It reminds me alot of ocala before all the rules. Check out their website at www.mudmuckers.com it is a great place with great people

I'm just curious have they put in a legal trail yet

The schedule in the North Lake Outpost called for live bombing at the Pinecastle bombing range in the heart of the Ocala National Forest 1/3-4-5-6/2008 from 1:00 to 3:00 pm.

Try the Fox Den Inn in Umatilla that is about the closest one. Its about 15 minutes away from scrub.

Big Scrub is at the intersection of fr573 and fr588. The nearest main road intersection is at cr42 and sr19 in Altoona. From that intersection it is 6 miles north on sr19 and 7 miles west on fr573.

Come up 17-92 till you reach hwy44 in deland turn left follow hwy 44 out of deland, cross the st john river and take your first right, which will be cr 42 follow this untill you reach sr 19 in altoona turn right go approx 7 miles on sr 19 untill you see the little wooden sign on the right that says big scrub, turn left there you will be driving along side of the power lines you will see a few approved parking areas.

Thanks Grizz, do I go to my local (Pinellas County) DMV for the green sticker?  I only have title for 2 of our ATVs.  Have Bill of Sales for all.  That enough?

   Yes go to your local dmv with the titles and bills of sale. The ones with bills of sale you will apply for a title and will receive them in the mail in about two weeks. However you will be given a registration and green stickers the day you apply. Be prepared to pay taxes on everything.

Well guys I have actually seen the trail groomer it came in a couple of days ago. The forest service is traing people to use it and should start grooming in a couple of days. They will be grooming the Winding wiregrass trail first in the south end of the forest then they will move to the north end.

I have never been to Big Scrub, what are the campsites like? I like to tent camp so I am wondering do the sites have any trees for shade, fire pits for a camp fire. Let me know what they are like.

No trees at all, they have fire pits. And the new bathrooms/showers are open.

South end of the ONF. Trail head is 2 miles west of hwy19 on hwy 445

The trail is mostly sandy through the woods type riding. One section has some very deep and large holes that are usually full of water, however you can get around them if you wish.

You need to bring proof of ownership as in a title or registration or notarized bill of sale. You must carry it with you at all times. Also carry a picture ID.

You now need the green title sticker to ride anywhere in the open areas of the forest. For right now the area around big scrub is still open meaning you can still ride up and down the powerlines. However it is illegal to ride in any pits or sinkholes or mudpuddles/wetlands. And trust me when I say you wont be able to talk your way out of a very expensive ticket.

I wanted to give everyone some information on the trail system in ONF. How many of you know that the trail markers were installed by trail ranger volunteers? Can you guess how many trail markers have allready been destroyed by inconsiderate riders / hunters who don't agree with there purpose. The marked trail system requires a tremendous amount of maintenance, this is done by the volunteers. When the system was first installed there were markers at every intersection and fork. The trail rangers have replaced numerous markers allready. But there are only a few volunteers and this is time we donate to the forest. So if you really want the trail system to work for you and your family perhaps you should join the trail rangers and help out instead of sitting in front of your computer and complaining, (saying what have you done for me lately) maybe then you would have a greater understanding of what were trying to accomplish for everybody.

   As a part of Miami-Dade County's continuing commitment to public participation in local government, the Park and Recreation Department invites area residents to attend a public workshop:

Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) Feasibility Study

The Department is searching for locations throughout the County that are suitable to develop OHV trails. A feasibility study is being conducted, and potential OHV sites are being ranked for suitability. Residents are encouraged to attend and comment on proposed locations for OHV trails.

The workshop will take place at:

John D. Campbell Agricultural Center Auditorium

18710 SW 288th Street Homestead, FL 33030

Wednesday, January 24th, 2007

7:00pm - 9:00pm

For further information, requests for foreign language interpreters, or questions prior to the meeting please contact:

Andy McCall, Park Planner 2

Miami-Dade Park & Recreation Department

Planning & Research Division

305-755-7993

Call 305-755-7848 (V/TDD) for materials in accessible format, information on access for Persons with Disabilities or sign language interpreters (five days in advance).

Multiple members of individual community councils may attend.





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I live right by this trail and ride it alot. You wont see to many people riding it. Its a good trail as long as you dont mind taking it easy as some of the trail is whooped up. When you hit the big waterholes on the one short stretch you can easily go around them and I would suggest this as some are deep. My 17 year old almost got stuck on his warrior.

I have to take time to say a little bit about this subject. First let me start off by saying that I was one of the first OHV volunteers in the ONF, right by my side through all the training was Grizzlybear. I have known this man for some time know. Grizzlybear has given more of his personal time to this sport than any of you can imagine. His goal is to keep as many trails open as possible. As for the grant money, mainly it is to be used to educate riders. The grant does not come from the forest service but from the T.Mark Schmidt fund. Lisa until you meet this man and talk to him face to face and get all your facts in line, stop making personal attacks on him. The attacks make you look stupid and bring down the sport as a whole.

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I was commenting about unlicensed offroad vehicles.

I was talking about this with Rick Lint who is now the head supervisor for the ONF and he said that all the roads in the ONF are federal land. And that about two years ago ONF banned all night riding and all riding on any numberd roads in the forest. The ban will remain in effect.

Zoomer a group of us will be riding the south end of the forest on sunday. Your group is more than welcome to join us. I live in the forest so I know the trails and can show you some neat places to ride. I will pm you my phone number.

There will be two sport rides one after the other. We will leave and return to the OHV center for both the rides. The sport rides will not be passing by Lake Delancey. The trails are way to whooped up over there. I'm guessing the sport rides should last about two hours each with a break in between at the OHV center. Your son could definately hang out there and catch the second ride.

Terry:

      I will be wearing the new helmet cam for this ride. We can send the digital files
down to Asphalt Dragon. Maybe he will be able to make it look like a quality production.

BUMP

I'm in....I'll be on my 350x 3Wheeler and my buddy will be on my Grizzly. Any suggestions on which ride I should go on?? I'd like to go on the ute ride but not if it's too muddy....the X won't make it........Is the ute ride more of just a trail ride....Help me out here Grizz.....

Also....Need directions from Orlando peeze...

The chances of you seeing any mud on this ride will be slim or none. The forest is really dry this year.    Coming from Orlando, you should get on Orange Blossum Trail and take it North untill you reach HWY 19 which is in Eustis. Take hwy 19 north untill you reach Salt Springs turn left there on hwy 316. follow 316 untill you reach FR88 turn right go approx 3 miles until you reach the OHV center.