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no, dirtwheels is playing a trick on their readers as usual. there will be no 4 stroke banshee

APRIL FOOLS !   You say

I will be out there with my banshee and blaster early like 7-8 am this sat the 3rd, in a  black dodge truck with black landscaping tandem axle trailer. see you there if you can come. I park at the first parking area from 19 (big scrub0

http://www.vitosperformance.com/atv_parts/product.php?productid=11216&cat=189&page=1

Has any one used or heard of this timming plate before as it is so cheap it may be no good (see link abv.)? How far can i advance the timming on pump gas? Thoughts?

Also have you heard about the new 500cc banchee for 2008 see the attached pic. Not a four stroke fan but if i had to buy one that would be the one!

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WELL LIKE YOU SAID LETS RIDE! no need for a big crowd. I look forward to riding in a new place anyway. I'm in no matter what. But check back Feb 13ish and we can all exchange numbers and arrange times and stuff. I still thought there would be a lot more shees to be heard from. Owell.

Pretty sad. I thought there would be far more shees willing. This doesn't look good

Where is lake Delaney? Got a goggle map of it, or a good description of where it is. I don't think i can make a weekend of it but a really long day for sure. But don't let me stop you guys from camping. Any pics? sounds good to me

I'm getting the hang of this. now i can go out and give advise. thanks for the training guys.

I found the CVD system on the trinity web sit, maybe this should be my next mod it seems to really increase performance. If you dont belive a rookie that has never built a motor before gust reed the info next to the dice in the pic. (click pic to enlarge)

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OUCH! The pic said it all!

Dynodon, I think that after Hoosier Daddy makes his fuzzy dice mod he can take you on your badass custom frame perfectly tuned banshee motor that you built. I'm a rookie though so I'm not sure weather you will need the blue or red fuzzy dice to beat him Hoosier. I also know that hanging them from the front bumper thingy will give you more top end, just something to consider.

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I think we need to decide when first. then a where then a time. After we know there will a few of us going to show up we can talk about perhaps brining the grill and some Hamburger and hotdogs. let poll it. Please make any suggestions as i don't know many places to ride.

Ocala - Big Scrub?
Brooksville - croom?

It was to dynodon.I aint going to fight over the net.If he wants to put 16cc domes and run on pump gas none is stopping him.I just know thats not safe.My life not be about building banshees for a living but I do know a lil bit about them.For the guy wanting to know what mods.Sign up on bansheehq.Thats the best banshee website online.

Thanks 06 i'll check that out.

no no no i just don't want people getting upset over thinking i might get bad info. thats all. you definitely have a rep that speaks for it self and your knowledge of the inerworkings of the shee. I greatly appreciate everything.

oops sorry smoke didn't see the quote above your post, i'll shut up now.

Hey guys its all good. I have got a great deal of info and even if i don't do anymore mods i have a much better understanding of the types of things to be done for improvements. Thanks all, there is no need to get bent out of shape. I have received a number of Pm's and seen other post, and the reps of some members speak volumes for there input. But then again LEEEETTTSSS GET IT ON! where AND WHEN? lets see these bikes run. I'm just playing calm down.

I got a new Banshee for X-Mas and had some Tech questions and after much discusion how great would it be to see all the different Banshee mods and setups as well as ride some bikes with different mods (for those who have respect and can share). I also think there are some guys how need to prove they have built a motor (gust kidding "06" no hard feeling man, sorry). The link is where we are in the tech forum but may soon move this discussion over here, see the link below.
http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,20539.25.html

bring family and friends you want just understand that the 4 strokes need to bring goggles and goggle cleaner. getting left in dust is nasty business.

[blupits04 I would love to get to gether and check your bike out but Maybe one better we could all get together at big scrub or anywhere for that matter, perhaps the beginning of next month? Feb 3rd in the am somewhere? I would love to see the different setups we have all talked about. I'm sure there will be some that must know how's set up is better as the tention is growing in here. O and yes as money doesn't grow on trees pump gas is good with me]

hay 06 banshee  what was the last banshee motor you built   not one someone else  built but one that you did  just wondering

How many Ive built=0.Going to be this summer tho.Im not starting Sh*T im just saying he probably wants to stay with pump gas.I like getting my stuff done right until I know how to do it right.I definately will never put 18cc domes on a bike im planning to run pump gas on and +6 timing.

blupits04  I would love to get to gether and check your bike out but Maybe one better we could all get together at big scrub or anywhere for that matter, perhaps the beginning of next month? Feb 3rd in the am somewhere? I would love to see the different setups we have all talked about. I'm sure there will be some that must know how's set up is better as the tention is growing in here. O and yes as money doesn't grow on trees pump gas is good with me

As Im in apoka I will probably come see ya when i need work done if thats your thing. Do you ride any where near the Big scrub area? I have yet to check out other spots in the forest yet.

How great would it be if we could get a all of us BANSHEE owners and fams (or not) together for a weekend ride? It would be great to actual see ride some other BANSHEEs that are set up diffrent not to mention talk with alot of you guys.

How great would it be if we could get a all of us BANSHEE owners and fams (or not) together for a weekend ride? It would be great to actual see ride some other BANSHEEs that are set up diffrent not to mention talk with alot of you guys.

good lookn out there Smoke, and i love the as*hole analogy   
the bottom line is that coming from a blaster w/ a toomey b1 kit, the Banshee rocks!

     Sounds like the one thing everyone agrees on is the timming plate and 4 deg. not to mention cost efective. Smoknbanshee I would love to take you up on that offer please pm me if you are still interested. then I think the water pump impeler followed by a clutch lockup followed by the single carb setup will be my goal for the next year then maybe the bigbore motor and with porting and new pipes latter down the road. As for the Paul Tuners man that is a completly difrent design, WOW. Not to take your advise Cutngrs but I just jot the bike for X-mas and my wife had the Toomeys put on so I likely wont git rid of them till a BB motor is done. Thanks evey one for the input it has been great.

     A few more questions I have are

1. Is 4 deg pushing it or prety safe as not to get knock?
2. With a single Carb what size and jetting do you recomend?
3. With carbs is it not true that bigger is not always better due to the fact that a smaller carb will have more vacum than a largeer one?

first off for the type of riding that you are doing you need to sell your pipes and get a set of low to mids paul turners. this is what i would do for that bike.....


pipes - paul turners
carb- trinity racing single carb kit(33mm) without porting (35mm) with porting
trinity racing head with pump gas domes
the best thing for that motor "PORTING" TRINITY RACING STAGE "PRO MX"
trinity timing plate because you can adjust timing without taking off flywheel with thier plate
after all that go with a lock-up- every motor from stock to all out drags will have clutch slip. the lock-up with help this. i had this same set up and the lock-up helped big time.

trust me on this your bike will be real fun to ride with this set up.

Great info. I appreciate how you listed all the options. Now remembering I know nothing so don't kill me but a single 33mm carb instead of (2) 26mm just seams like Less fuel and air and would not supply enough. I understand that for it to be sold on Trinity's web site says it all due to the reputation i have heard about them. If you could explain this in any grater detail it would be much appreciated.
http://www.trinityracing.com/products/yamaha/bansheecvkit.html

how old are you and what are you planning to do with this bike?

     I am 27 and like trail riding in Ocala. Me and my dad drag race from time to time as well. I really like the ability to have the torque on demand to lift the front end with little effort. Mainly I gust like to ride hard and fast but when with the fam I can only hit it hard for short burst before getting to far from the fam and have to back down. Unlike A lot of guys I don't care for the super high speeds and really get into 5th and 6th gear. Also thanks accepting the invite.
     As for the jetting you think i need to go up a size on the Toomey jetting? Not saying I know one way or another but I really think it is coming from the reed spacer and may need to move it to be between the mottor and the reed valve instead of betwen the carb and the reed valve. But again don't know and was looking for input and will look into a 290 instead of the 280 i am currently running.

yeah, i just rode cutngrs drag banshee last weekend that had a lockout, but it is a drag banshee, for trailriding a lockout is not necessary, spend the money elsewhere.  if you plan to get into drag racing, then yes a lockout is necessary, very necessary.  i have a timing plate because i took it off my banshee that i sold because i had a dyna fs ignition that already had the timing advanced 5 degrees.  cutngrs has a 610cc cheetah motor and 535 has even bigger motor so they would be the ones to ask about the big motors.  good luck man. 

Well before I get a timing plate perhaps i should ask do you feel that the ignition is a better way to go than the timing plate? Also if i wanted it how would we exchange money for part? I am in Orlando but make frequent trips to Miami. I was ridding for the first time on this machine last night and noticed that when power slidding (drifting) thru the turns or doing donuts the bike would sputter at very high rpm. I think this might be due to the reed spacers being placed between the carbs and the reed valves. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

I have an adjustable timing plate I think I will sell $20 shipped.  you don't need a lockup in my opinion.  If you really want some good advice, you need to pm cutngrs, he is the banshee man on here.

Have you ridden a banshee with the clutch lockout? Why do you not like your timing plate? How many degrees did you go on the taming advance? I think stock timing is 17 degrees, correct? thanks for the heads up about cutngrs and 535Banshee i will look them up. Also has anyone ever had a 500cc big bore or better engine, and has any words of wisdom? ( thanks smoke and mudder )

[2006 yamaha banshee 350 with]

2006 yamaha banshee 350 with

-Toomey T5 exhaust and jet kit
  http://www.toomey.com/
-K&N powerlid with outerwear pre filter and no airfilter in the box
http://www.knfilters.com/powerlid.htm
-reed spacers placed between the reed cage and the carb
http://www.trinityracing.com/products/yamaha/bansheereedspacer.html
-Delta 3 V-Force reed valve and reeds
http://www.mototassinari.com/atv.php
-rear sprocket went up 3 teeth

What is the next couple of best mods for the money? I have listed a few ideas below but am open to all thoughts. I don't want to mod the cylinders or heads as I would like to go to a big bore kit later http://www.trinityracing.com/products/cheetah/cheetah.html. Yes money is an issue if you were wondering?

Clutch lockout
A lockout is designed to do two things, (1) eliminate excessive clutch slippage to facilitate the
transfer of as much horsepower to the rear tires as possible and (2) make the bike quicker
http://www.directdrivecnc.net/banlockout.html

Adjustable Timing Plate
advancing your timing
http://www.trinityracing.com/products/yamaha/bansheetiming.html

Timing Advance Key
Add 1.5 hp. All this key does is advance the timing by 3 degrees. By doing this your quad will rev quicker and hit the power band faster.
http://store.albaaction.com/shop/BANSHEE-ADV-KEY.html

Pro Design water pump mega flow impeller. The advanced design flows more liquid -providing up to 30% more efficient cooling!
http://store.albaaction.com/shop/PD410.html

Dropping one tooth on the front sprocket?

Ignition system