i know we cant stop using gas but what if we stoped using certain gas stations??? specific locations, in hopes of closing down gas stations
stupid idea or what??
sounds lik it might work if there r enough people invovled in the same towns...
r u saying lik, dont use any BP gas stations or dont use any WAL-MARTS and like MOBILS...???
news @ 9 - Secret service arrests man who threatens to burn down the WhiteHouse on Open Forum....
what i mean is not using certain gas stations, like at a particular location,
ie; yes we can shop at walmart, but dont buy from the wall mart on pines blvd
it will take a while but a point will hopefully be taken
Quote from: renmus on May 01, 2008, 04:49:37 PM
news @ 9 - Secret service arrests man who threatens to burn down the WhiteHouse on Open Forum....
thats what i was thinking
I used the word (should) and the ;) too. Thats wasn't a threat but a joke, i won't take a chance so I removed it.
I seen an e-mail that was going around that said if everybody wouldn't buy gas on a certain day that would help but there again you got to have enough people to do it.Still like the thought of it though trx#9. :F
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In order to save gas I like to draft behind the fuel trucks. I find it ironic and somewhat funny.
Yaa dont buy from Exxon or Mobil... BP and Cheveron are up there to... lets try this and c if it makes a diff...
It will never work you wont get enough ppl involve for them to feel an impact. thats my opinion
Everybody complains and bitches and moans but no one cares enough to do anything about it. EVERYONE would have to stop buying from one certain company and that won't happen. Americans (in general) are to lazy and don't have the will power to stick to it until it makes a difference.
Quote from: Da_Mtg_Man on May 02, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
Everybody complains and bitches and moans but no one cares enough to do anything about it. EVERYONE would have to stop buying from one certain company and that won't happen. Americans (in general) are to lazy and don't have the will power to stick to it until it makes a difference.
I SECOND THAT!!
Quote from: Sleazy_Rider78 on May 01, 2008, 10:08:19 PM
In order to save gas I like to draft behind the fuel trucks. I find it ironic and somewhat funny.
That's hilarious!! I may try that driving up to Croom tomorrow!!!!!
Think big picture......... Offset cost by buying there stock, good investment at this time.
Quote from: big-daddy on May 02, 2008, 09:06:42 AM
Think big picture......... Offset cost by buying there stock, good investment at this time.
Well isn't that nice...
Quote from: Da_Mtg_Man on May 02, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
Everybody complains and bitches and moans but no one cares enough to do anything about it. EVERYONE would have to stop buying from one certain company and that won't happen. Americans (in general) are to lazy and don't have the will power to stick to it until it makes a difference.
Absolutely Mike. We were once a military & economic super power.Now all of our products are made over seas or outside of the country.We import everything.If, I should say WHEN the rest of the world bleeds us dry of our wealth since we are a buying economy,most have no savings & insurance. They will cut us off from oil & imports we WILL be a Haiti sooner than you think.We will be using the euro since our dollar isn't worth crap anymore & our kids will be learning to speak Chinese in schools.
Quote from: bushwacker on May 02, 2008, 09:11:54 AM
Quote from: Da_Mtg_Man on May 02, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
Everybody complains and bitches and moans but no one cares enough to do anything about it. EVERYONE would have to stop buying from one certain company and that won't happen. Americans (in general) are to lazy and don't have the will power to stick to it until it makes a difference.
Absolutely Mike. We were once a military & economic super power.Now all of our products are made over seas or outside of the country.We import everything.If, I should say WHEN the rest of the world bleeds us dry of our wealth since we are a buying economy,most have no savings & insurance. They will cut us off from oil & imports we WILL be a Haiti sooner than you think.We will be using the euro since our dollar isn't worth crap anymore & our kids will be learning to speak Chinese in schools.
Very true...
Quote from: bushwacker on May 02, 2008, 09:11:54 AM
Quote from: Da_Mtg_Man on May 02, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
Everybody complains and bitches and moans but no one cares enough to do anything about it. EVERYONE would have to stop buying from one certain company and that won't happen. Americans (in general) are to lazy and don't have the will power to stick to it until it makes a difference.
Absolutely Mike. We were once a military & economic super power.Now all of our products are made over seas or outside of the country.We import everything.If, I should say WHEN the rest of the world bleeds us dry of our wealth since we are a buying economy,most have no savings & insurance. They will cut us off from oil & imports we WILL be a Haiti sooner than you think.We will be using the euro since our dollar isn't worth crap anymore & our kids will be learning to speak Chinese in schools.
Looking that way.
Quote from: Ida_Mann on May 02, 2008, 09:10:12 AM
Quote from: big-daddy on May 02, 2008, 09:06:42 AM
Think big picture......... Offset cost by buying there stock, good investment at this time.
Well isn't that nice...
I guess it would be nice when it can be afforded. But it does leave out average Joe or Jane.
We still produce a substantial amount of food for world consumption. If things ever truly get bad here you can be sure the oil producing countries will starve before the United States looks anything like Haiti.
UN rapporteur calls for biofuel moratorium
More and more corn is being used for biofuel at the expense of food, according to Jean Ziegler.
The United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food is demanding an international five-year ban on producing biofuels to combat soaring food prices.
Switzerland's Jean Ziegler said the conversion of arable land for plants used for green fuel had led to an explosion of agricultural prices which was punishing poor countries forced to import their food at a greater cost.
"232kg of corn is needed to make 50 litres of bioethanol," Ziegler said on Thursday. "A child could live on that amount of corn for a year."
Using land for biofuels would result in "massacres", he said, predicting a reduction in the amount of food aid sent to developing countries by richer ones.
Quote from: bushwacker on May 02, 2008, 09:11:54 AM
Quote from: Da_Mtg_Man on May 02, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
Everybody complains and bitches and moans but no one cares enough to do anything about it. EVERYONE would have to stop buying from one certain company and that won't happen. Americans (in general) are to lazy and don't have the will power to stick to it until it makes a difference.
Absolutely Mike. We were once a military & economic super power.Now all of our products are made over seas or outside of the country.We import everything.If, I should say WHEN the rest of the world bleeds us dry of our wealth since we are a buying economy,most have no savings & insurance. They will cut us off from oil & imports we WILL be a Haiti sooner than you think.We will be using the euro since our dollar isn't worth crap anymore & our kids will be learning to speak Chinese in schools.
Thats capitalism baby!
How is it that a regular ordinatory American is smarter than our Government?? can someone answer this?
Quote from: JackL on May 02, 2008, 09:40:26 AM
We still produce a substantial amount of food for world consumption. If things ever truly get bad here you can be sure the oil producing countries will starve before the United States looks anything like Haiti.
I highly doubt that! these idiots we have runnin OURcountry are more interesrted in helping 3rd world countries and being the politically correct nice guy.do you have any idea how many children go to sleep hungry every night in the US?I'm sure its alot more than any of us think(and i'm not talkin about those illegal bastards or there offspring.)I say we oust every senator,congressman-woman president,vice president.and the majority of the state politicians and start over.lets get some good ol boys in there that actually give a crap about america.because if we dont then we will be the 3rd world country.
Quote from: big-daddy on May 02, 2008, 09:46:35 AM
UN rapporteur calls for biofuel moratorium
More and more corn is being used for biofuel at the expense of food, according to Jean Ziegler.
The United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food is demanding an international five-year ban on producing biofuels to combat soaring food prices.
Switzerland's Jean Ziegler said the conversion of arable land for plants used for green fuel had led to an explosion of agricultural prices which was punishing poor countries forced to import their food at a greater cost.
"232kg of corn is needed to make 50 litres of bioethanol," Ziegler said on Thursday. "A child could live on that amount of corn for a year."
Using land for biofuels would result in "massacres", he said, predicting a reduction in the amount of food aid sent to developing countries by richer ones.
That is kind of the point and reason our gov is promoting ethanol from corn so hard. We have a LOT of land and a lot of farmable area. We pay farmers to not grow crops. Corn to ethanol is terribly in efficient. If the US sold ethanol as 2% of the fuel used by cars we would consume the entire national corn product of mexico. Switching the average SU Joe to ethanol literally make food to expensive for nations that depend on corn export. Cuba's export is mainly corn Venezuela is also heavily depended on farming as is much of south america.
Ethanol is about crimping our enemies, not about reducing crude oil use.