ATV Florida Forum

i am trading in my mazda (ranger) for 6500, and putting it down on a diesel, i am a diesel mechanic, and pretty much know enough about the engines, but what worries me is who has the best tranny, which would be a better buy, chevy/GMC 2500 or a dodge 2500, which is a better built truck

uhhhh a FORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you have against Ford...My opinion they are the best truck out there right now. Dodge looks good, but you wouldnt catch me driving one.
Chevy obviously makes a great truck too. Id be narrowing it down between those two.

GM has the Allison tranamission. It is the best of the three by far.

Well, if Chevy is still running the Allison behind the Duramax then thats probably the strongest tranny your going to find. All I've heard about Ford is "Don't by the 6.0h no". But mabey their new lineup has changed that.

Everyone knows the Honda Ridgeline and Toyota Tundra  are the best Pick ups on the road right now..... ::)

lol, once I catch up to them I run them over with my H1! Honda, what a sorry excuse for a truck.

They all suck, after hearing how bad they are I just parked mine and started riding my horse.

Here is a good read for you. Its very long.

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2007/shootout/hdshootout1.html

Can't beat the Allison Tranny.

yea, noting against ford, just too loud. i kno cummins good motor, but if i get a dodge, and want to put in a banks tranny, if i get a chevy, i am gunna want a zf tranny, but i dunno, which rides better?

nothing against fords, jus too loud of an engine. i am famililar with cummins, and a very torquey engine, and if i do go that route, i want to get a banks tranny, if i go chevy i want a zf tranny

yeah right put it back to back with a duramax/allison combo and you will look as if you were towing the ford here is a clip for you but it is gas powered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr4GiQLGdC4

Thats video is meaningless. Two diffent engine and two different trannys than what this guy wants. It has no relation to this. Plus the guy in the Ford is an idiot for flooring it like that. Do you think you'll get more traction spinning at 30mph?

That was a Video of a Ford gettinng dragged by a Silverado.....How does that not relate to the Banter going on about Ford Vs. Chevy Vs. Dodge Vs. ToyNissOnda's?

I can find you about 20 videos of a ford pulling a chevy and dodge pulling a ford, etc. This guy wants a diesel truck, so why post a video of two gas motors duking it out?

Because it Illustrated his Point. If we stuck to the letter of the law when Posting relevance in each and every topic it would be rather boring. You of all people should realize that.

I would go with the Chevy/GMC. I've always been a Ford man but I now own a tahoe z71. It's got 180k on it, pulls a trailer every day and no problems yet! Still love the Fords!

i am not to concerned with brand, i kno chevy diesels are the fastest, dodges have most torque, and fords are just inbetween, i just dont know which on to go for, chevy i think looks better lifted, but dodge is also more fuel efficent, so i dunno thanks guy tho

did you not read that it is a gas powered in the video if you read it and knew that you should not have clicked on it and as for importance of the issue you can ask any any diesel mechanic as he should know that anyone will tell you Duramax(isuzu motor)/Allison tranny is handsdown the best set-up in truck at this time. and this one here a f-350 4x4 can hardly pull with 4x4 GAS dodge http://youtube.com/watch?v=gDOug_-ceTI

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FmofbFuJoT8 like it stands for fix or repair daily http://youtube.com/watch?v=FmofbFuJoT8

Diesel ford vs.http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gh9sMxVVVpw 6.5 diesel it is a hummer but it is 6.5 chevy motor and yes ford again broke a drive shaft

It is not I dont like fords I had one but at this time if you are looking to buy new Chevy/GMC handsdown

Not this debate again ;D This gets almost as good as the pitbull debate. Duramax baby. :drive.gif :box.gif

Gato, why are you basing your input on this subject on videos from the internet? There are a million factors in every video so non of them, realistically, are relevant. I would buy by what suits you better. If you want a strong drivetrain, go with Chevy. A legendary motor and strong axles, go with Dodge. If you want a shiney, butt ugly truck, go with ford(hehehehe).

I think your question was which tranny was the best, the Allison is by far the best, you know most of these videos are meaningless.  Think about the weight of the 2 trucks, what tires they are using, what the road conditions are, and the driver!  Those 3 things are hardly ever consitant in these pull offs like in those video.  I can take ANY truck with the right weight, right tire (or at least better than the other truck) and pull ANY other truck backwards!! Then low and behold.... MY TRUCK IS BETTER THAN YOURS LOL

Thank you.

LOL no problem, I haven't had the money to get a new diesel but I think when I do get one I am going to leave it BONE STOCK (except a lift and tires) instead of putting all these aftermarket performance parts on, I have seen so many problems with them.  LOL then you get these guys with all these upgrades (my friend has a dodge 1100lbs torque) pull up to another manufactures stock truck and say it is a piece of junk because he can beat him in a race.  I don't think it really means anything, but that is just me.

Get a Cummins!!!

I laugh at my brother and his 6.0L Ford because it has more miles on it from rolling in and out of the shop than it does on the road. It's the biggest pile of crap and it's rediculasly slow. I eat that thing up with my father's Cummins. Not even a race. Both are dually and 4 doors.

Ford does have the nices interior of them all though, I'll give them that. I feel like I'm in a big ass Mercedes.

every body has there own opinion on the best diesel but if your worried about the trany, the alison is obviously the strongest of the 3.

Are you thinking new or used?

When I went looking for a Diesel, I too was debating Chevy or Dodge and sometimes Ford. I was a Chevy guy and the Allison tranny is the best IMO, so i wanted a Chevy but too much money (even used).  Ford and the 6.0 International engine has a lot of injector problems and the tranny, I didn't know if they where good or bad. (my tranny guy says the new ones are great, btw) Plus I drove an International tow truck and it had injector probelms.   Then came the Dodge Cummins, only 6 cylinders so if it had injector problems only 6 to deal with (I've never heard of injector problem on a cummins), also if there ever was a engine problem it doesn't have to come out, a cummins can be rebulit in the truck.  Full front axle for the 4x4 was a plus too (Ford too).  The tranny was the only down fall so I just decided to drive a "stock" truck until the tranny went bad then I'd rebuild it right (like a banks, ATS, etc).  So I bought a 99 Dodge (100,000 miles) for $15,000 saved some money till one day a year later the tranny would not shift in to 1st, would only start from 2nd. So a sad day because the $3k would have to be spent, but what a good day because "let the fun begin!"  Sorry for the long post, test drives are free (and fun sometimes) so drive them all and read the forums (google search) because all three have there problems. (if you want a dodge forum, let me know)

Good luck... 

yea went to carmax yesturday, testdrove a chevy duramax, dodge cumming dually, and a 7.3 ford, i love the chevy the most!!! the fastest, thanks all for you imput

chevys are fast... Can someone confirm or deny this? -> Heard the fords tranny in the powerstroke, whatever its called, torque shift, gear something, i obviously dont remember what ford calls it but heard it was made by allison, but ford cant put allison on the truck b/c chevy had it?? ??? Someone want to help me lol?