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I just wanted to say hi to everyone, been gone a while when I lost my password. Been using my real name JackL since. Hi guys. ;) How do I find my member #

Click members in he grey toolbar and sort by "date registered" looks like you're number 1512.

Welcome back but do me a favor and visit us as Kryppy. I don't care much for your other personality..... :D
Seriously, I want to bury the hatchet and call a truce. Lets do like I suggested in another post and just agree to disagree.....

Good Post. No since in arguing over the internet like a bunch of retards. I think we could all get along in real life and have a good time riding.

Which thread? I'll check with the other mods and see what/why it was deleted.

I will take this post to formerly apologise to any mudriders I have offended by using mudrider to prefix the few members that are POS's IMO. I certainly never attacked any of your wives, but with mudrider next to your name and glaring out in posts it is very easy to take your silence in some of these vile and uncalled for attacks as if you condone them. A truce? Bury the hatchet, that is so pathetic coming from someone who never forgets or forgives anything it borders on the funniest thing I have ever read here

I have no hatchet out, I have a problem with my posts being deleted with no profanity or personal attacks in them, but when anyone with a mudrider logo or sponsors the site does it, they get a free pass.
I find it disgusting 10 or more people can jump a person because the cow in front starts charging and nothing is done abut it and no one speaks up. Trust me, this personality is far more worse and the fact I have 78 posts listed, yet 4 show might give you a clue. I believe i have an even older one if anyone who predates me wants to step up.

I'm am truly sorry the truth hurts, but I for one am sick of people being scared to post something for fear of smacking a hornets nest. Well, I am here with the can of ether and lighter. ;)

You have abused your power and need to be impeached. IMO, how about we start a stupid poll. like ban jackl that was deleted when I won with a land slide. I will do just that.

It is a good post too bad your friends do not see it that way, and insist on being internet bullies.  Thank god my popularity has gone up since y'alls friends the FMR's started bashing me over a year ago.  Thanks for all the new friends!

Oh well, I tried. See ya next weekend out at the ranch.

Oh My Lord it just will not stop... ::)...

 ::)

I don't even see this post!!!????!!!

Remind you of anyone? LMFAO

Alrighty, Jack I apologize for calling you a dumbsumbeach. But cmon, give it a rest. Find you some sample prozac or a jackskack already.

Nice to meet you kryppy, it's a tryp you been on here since way back then.
I could understand why a man would,should,or could change there name to there real name.
 I don't think I was on back that far,heard a lot of good story's from way back then.
Like Skynyrd said "aint hiding from nobody,nobody hiding from me" 

my parents once told me that to stand by and watch someone get picked on and do nothing was as bad as being the bully.  i have stood up for the little guy since i was a kid.  same as i did for brett.  right wrong or indifferent it is not ok to just destroy someone cause you don't like them.  i got a personal phone call from patty pierce asking me to jump in and help him.  i was already getting ready to help him when she called.  what i got for sticking up for him has been nothing but crap from most of the fmr crew.  and all i said at the time is it's not necessary to pick on him in public.  and why can't the fmr's just leave him alone.  agree that you don't like him and leave him alone.  they couldn't do that.  instead the venom got turned on me and anyone who has stuck up for me that crew has done their best to destroy.  the fmr's are internet bullies at best.  i'm not calling all fmr's this.  i'm referring to  a select few that keep the fire going.  


very good analogy you have there.  cause no one will step in and say anything for fear of being jumped on the internet.  myself, mudfreak, jack, kb, brett and numerous others have been constantly abused by many of the fmr members for a couple years now.  freak only got jumped on cause he stuck up for me.  same thing happened to jack and kb.  yet those of you that are fmr's that are my friend still sit by idly and let your friends destroy as best they can your other friends.  i am not afraid, nor have i ever been afraid of your crew like most of the rest of the websites. anytime there's drama over here and fmr's involved the top reads like a who's who of the fmr's.  ppl that haven't been on this site for months come back ready to pounce.


i am well aware of what you have said upstairs about me.  there is a leak in your organization.  i have never created a SN on that site.  i know i'm not liked and could give a dam.  i get this information sent to me in PM's by some of your members.  i'm not like brett if you don't like me feel free to talk about me behind my back.  feel free to do as wacker did and post a porn video on your site w/ the title -QT getting all her holes filled.  but don't come back over here and tell ppl that you are good ppl.  i've met wacker once and i have never done anything personally to him, his wife, or his kids.  i never said anythign personal about him till he joined the few others in an attack on me.  there is a post so bad over on your site when you started it that i had ppl calling me after the thread had been locked up private.  they told me that they were too embarrassed to tell me what was said and that they would never tell me cause they didn't want to see me hurt.  these ppl are members on your site.

so do as you wish.  continue to hate me.  i hate no one.  let me repeat that I HATE NO ONE!  my parents taught me years ago that hate is a strong word.  and that spending such time in the negative closes life to more positive opportunities.  if you ever care to let the past go and truely bury the hatchet then let me know.  i do not want to be your friends, i do not nor have i ever wanted to become a member of your group, all i have asked for is to peacefully co-exist and be able to have a few beers together if we cross paths.  the last time we crossed paths was at the ranch.  i stopped so your crew could cross on to main grade.  i waved to the entire group.  all of you looked directly at me and only 3 waved.  so to say that i have anger in my heart or bitterness is way off based.

I ain't looking for no apologies, I could give a damn what is said about me, and maybe these mood altering chemicals you seem to know so much about are making you blind or something?  I just think this is funny as hell that because I had the nerve to laugh at one of those obnoxious QT posts, where she stole my line, i got all kinds of crap thrown at me by PL and that blues bleed character. Funny neither have met me yet run their yaps awful big from behind the monitor.

Oh yeah, as for Big daddy and his story, that generator was off and the door was open you naive tools, this was our joke until I questioned the RRPOA, River Ranch and the status of our unimproved deeded land in the hunting area for when the state comes and takes it like the north side now, big cypress and the holey lands in the past. Why do you think he posted it two months later in such a tiff, whatever, he and his idle threats to beat me up, cause me an accident and feed me to the gators are one more stupid comment from his intellectually challenged self away from being posted...and I mean EVERYTHING Big D including every .mp3 of our phone conversations that will remove every shadow of a doubt from anyone's mind what they should and should not tell you.

Okeedokee, have a good one.

This was a real cool site back then. Wish it was still like that, many great riders would return.

nah, we will stay on our site. ;D

Then why dont you quit the drama, you dipsh!t!!

Just until some drama pops up anyway, eh? ;) You been at more than five years anyway?




I didn't create any drama. I exposed some big time hypocrisy and BS. Your boy PL started this, and sent his sugar momma in to try and smooth it out with more freakin BS, and your boy wacker just threw some poop on top for good measure while the mods stood around and laughed. Seems we have three with any integrity at most, and until bones tells me to shut up I will post what ever I damn well please.

WOW, I guess it's pretty much all laid out on the table now !

This ordeal is still going on circles....Everyone wants to be a Victim....Once people take responsibility for their actions the drama ends.

If you don't give a damn then why are you so concerned about what has been said?

I speak my mind just like you. You do a great job of documenting your exploits and I have zero interest in meeting or riding with you. Wreckless riders like you hurt yourself and those around you and the last thing I want anyone I know getting hurt. You start attacking and bashing my friends and I will say something. I'm sorry some of you don't have friends that will stand up for you but I'm the kind of person that stands by his friends. You can call that a group attack I call that supportive friends.

QT, I've never met you before but I've read a lot of the threads that went on at the old FLAATV site and yes you did support Brett at one point but you also took it to the point personal attacks towards certain FMRs. Don't play innocent like all you did was stand up for him and tell everyone to leave him alone you were right there tossing personal insults.

Bill

I did take responsibility for my actions.  I took it on myself to say that picking on brett was wrong and was very unnecessary.  I have taken an azz kicking for it ever since.  And you crew seems to feel that I should apologize to them for sticking up for someone.  I have actually apologized for any poor choices of words I've used in the past and yet it still goes on that y'all can't just agree to dislike me and leave it be w/o bashing me either on here or on your own site.  So your statement isn't exactly correct about the drama ending.


I took responsibility for my own actions and defended the little guy.  If this is somehow wrong or bad please enlighten me.

Blue at some point in time you finally have to defend yourself.  I was not the one that starting slinging lies and BS.  I started out by asking them to leave him alone in public forum and asking why they felt the need to go after him.  Then I was jumped on and attacked by several of your members.  Yes, at which point I am gonna defend myself.

If you're group were standing there punching me I'd be a moron to just stand there and not do something to block your punches or throw a punch back.  Either way.  It woudn't have mattered.  Had I stood there and let the group beat me up or defended myself things would still be the way they are today cause I stuck up for someone against them and I stood up and said what they were doing was wrong.

Seriously most of us did let it rest but then every so often you come into a thread where a FMR posted and you throw out a shot like the keyboard rider. So again stop trying to act like a victim when the drama got stirred up because you threw a shot out at the FMR's.

Bill

QT if you would quit being the victim for 5 seconds you would find from your "secret source"..lol...that the whole 3 times your name came up in serious conversation 70% of people have no issue with you because they do not know you.....I am sorry but in life people will not like you....Tons of people dislike me and I really do not mind. Quit trying to depict FMR's as some evil Gang hell bent on hurt Poor QT the Damel in distress...Majority have no opinion....but it is rapidly changing the more you distort the truth.

Yes of course you have to defend yourself and I would do the same...I do the same thing. But when you resort to personal insults and bashing and it ends there how do you expect the people on the other end of those insults to act? It's not like you came back and apologized or tried to make amends you just left it at that and eventually the site faded away. The letting die thing is a two way street but you are just as guilty as anyone of the FMRs in keeping the fight alive.

Bill

What's funny is in the past couple years I have never heard a FMR complain about QT sticking up for Brett. It is the other stuff she had done/does that makes people not like her. I think someone has a guilty conscience.

I am not a victim.  There will always be those who don't like me and those that will.  I'm fine w/ it either way.  I just don't see why ppl have to be so rude about it.  I did what I thought was right.  I took what was given to me and I still deal w/ it.  Whether it's my fault or y'alls fault it doesn't really matter.  I'm a big girl and can handle myself and stand up for myself as needed.

Jesus, what's next? Are we gonna all meet up at the bike rack after school? This ought to make RR real interesting this weekend.  ::)

JohnF, I removed your post. I'll bet it's not who you thought.
People were asked to stop all the crap, the way I read your post you were just adding fuel to the fire we're trying to put out.
Now all these new posts, people, this needs to stop.

I have the FMR logo in my sig and I am proud of it. I used to enjoy this site very much, now we have new ones here that all they do is stir up crap just for the fun of it, using 4 or 5 user names. I've stayed out of most things, because I don't like the taste of my own shoe leather.

It's not fun being a mod, ask yunt, people expect you to be everywhere doing the right thing for them. With a group as large as this has become, there will be personality conflicts, can't be avoided. It's just human nature I guess. I used to tell people about this site all the time, not anymore. I don't want them to see the crap being posted.

This site used to be friendly people looking for places and friends to ride with, it's not like that now.
There's a lot of good people here, just takes a few rotten apples to upset the whole bushel.

lol.... I would hope no one involved would resort to a fight or argument at RR, unless some are immature enough to let the internet control their real life.

Really?  I have apologized to some about things that were said.  Maybe you just haven't heard that side of the story.  I take responsibility for my actions and I try to take the high road.  We are all guilty of making mistakes.  I have only bashed anyone when they started bashing me first.  I do not have a site where I regularly make reference to any of you negatively.  I have only made negative references when I've been refered to that way or been bashed.  If you read enough about me darn near everything I say is as a smart azz or as a joke.  I will say that yes you are right there is a 2 way street in this stupidity.  I was going to not respond to any mudriders posts so as to walk away from it all and let it be a one sided battle.  I think that it is the best way to let the past be the past and take the higher road.  QT out!

LMFAO, thats funny, I miss him too, he seemed like a good kid.


Hey QT,
 Sounds about how I was taught as a kid about bullying, & sticking up for others & not to kick any one when there down. When I was a kid, sometimes in High School I would wake up in class to some kid being rude to the teacher & have to tell him/ her to shut up, I think some of my teachers hated that they had to fail me, but they did what they had to do.

Ok, sorry one last comment.  I'll be having jello shots on the big buggy w/ the K that looks like superman.  If you care to have one then come by and say hi.  If not I'll still be waving in sincerity when you go by.  What you chose to do is up to you. 

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I remember the Rodman Ride, Eureke Ride, and other rides just about every weekend that would have atleast 20 people if not 200 show up and have a good time. Nights at the lodge and cabins in Elite, hangin out at Chillins house in the forest. I guess it's all gone and we can blame..... who can we blame? Everyone! I think anyone who has posted in any of the threads is guilty of the downfall of this website. It all started by the teenagers posting stupid crap and now that we see there stupid stuff we just post whatever we want and nothing is about atv's or riding. maybe we can all just have a big group ride sometime and get to know everyones real personalities.

Really so the keyboard rider comment was in reply to what? You mentioned about joking or kidding around but when there is obvious tension between you and another group making a joke or smart remarks isn't going to go over too well with them.

Bill

 :'(

If I make it out there, I'm afraid I'll have to pass. Enjoy your weekend.  ;)

The way it looks, I should have removed more posts, maybe all of them.
Don't have to worry about that anymore, I won't remove another post.

There's a lot of good people here, and at the FMR group.
That doesn't mean we all have to get along because that won't happen.
Just agree to not agree. Life is to short for this bull sh*t.

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You are Great best friend JohnF.......LMAO

God lord, do you people hijack every single thread!! Looks like everyone has kissed and made up, god for you all. I am going riding. See you at Macks boys.

BTW: I just regained control of my PC from some devious hacker, so if any posts were made from my PB blame that Russian kid. :P

Are you serious with this? You guys can't even let something go from three months ago you don't even have first hand knowledge of. Read this and lets make sure we are clear on the definition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite
Are you guys so childish that someone makes a joke at your expense or club name you have to relentlessly attack them on every post however non related forever?
Poor old FMR's, they are always the victims of unprovoked attacks. I can't even say that with a straight face.

Be safe riding Jackl....

I will certainly try, but accidents happen.  8)

I'm so confused after reading this whole topic. :(

LOL. You need to read that defintion again. QT made a comment that seemed directed at the FMRs, you jumped in because your feelings were hurt about not being able to bash Brett any further and PL posted your pic...you know the one that is months old and you just couldn't let go. LOL. So who again in the child?  ::) And no we aren't victims but if you say something about a friend of mind I will step in and respond. It called friendship you should look up the defintion of that also. Could you be any more ignorant?

Bill

Hypocrisy is the act of condemning another person, when the critic is guilty of the same thing that is being condemned.

Thank you.