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I was just wondering what the top speed is ? My family races snowmobiles...snow, track and grass. A stock 440 can reach speeds of well over 100 miles an hour. With mods. It is amazing what they can do. There are many larger sleds than that one, but that is what I grass race with. It is light and easy for me to handle in the grass. When it launches I have to lay down on it or I can not control it. How does this compare to sport quads ? I obviously  ride a utility quad. Tony

I have a Raptor that will run right at 100mph. It's had a few little mods to it  ;D

That is fast . I find that quads are more stable than snowmobiles. I have put my sled on its side on turns many times.

Some Modded,geared Banshee's run 100mph ....
i'd like to have a "ski" or "boat" Motor to sand drag with !!  ;D
My TRI-Z only runs like 77-80 mph  :'(  "but gets there quick"

Well I don't know about a raptur running 100 but yes some modded out banshee run over 100.

never heard of a rappy doing 100  :-/    but banshees yes and 250r hondas

I tell you guys what, I'm riding tomorrow with 3 or 4 people from the website. I'll check it on the GPS and post the results tomorrow night. Matter of fact, I'll take a pic of the GPS screen.
Just so you know, I am pulling a 20ft enclosed so the speed on the pic will be from the Rappy and not the truck.  ;D

Hey You Guys... From the looks of his Ride ...i Beleive Him
Hey da_mtg_man.... post a pic of you doing that speed
along with the GPS Thingy !!  
BBBRRRRAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP !!!

and your'e riding where sir?

I kinda don't wanna go to croom.

Id@

did i heard it right , you are going to take a picture of your gps doing 100mph. Are you nuts !! top speed stock Raptor is 92 mph with a drivers weight for 225lb. mod Raptor with a lot $ in the quad can go over 100+. its on the edge of the suspension. buy a trail tech speedo they work great. if you want speed add a turbo.

ok where do you come up with 92 stock for a raptor? LMAO that made my day after messing up my shoulder. And his isnt stock, it has Spitfire Spark Splug. And what is that pic supposed to be of? That isnt a raptor, that would be a banshee. Also i believe Mike's bike will do around 100.

I know my YFZ will go 87mph and so will the other 4 bikes that were in my 24ft. trailer when I got the $177 ticket.

I know Banshees can go well over 100 mph cause I've seen em do it. But how about the member named cutngrs with the Woods stage 3 DS with other mods and nos? He has it set up for drag, but it must be putting up some crazy numbers.  I haven't personally seen it, but I'm sure the Raptor can be modded to hit 100, but there is no way a stock Rappy does 92 unless it's downhill in a hurricane.

thaa its shee with an turbo charger, about 65 hp of yamaha a$$ kicking power. I have a 660 Raptor 05 that how i know. pipes, cdi box, carb work, and little more done to it, its ok. ;)

Lets not hijack this dudes post but i still dont beileve with just that your craptor i mean raptor will hit 90+ hell im sure it wont. A stock raptor runs like low 70's stock. :-* And i take it you got those duals that just add sound? ;)

Sorry guys, My GPS was really wacky. It said that my max speed on the way to Big Bass was 175mph, Thats pulling a 20ft enclosed  ;D. Needless to say, I didn't take a pic of the Rappy's top speed.
Bottom line is that I know mine will hit 100mph. It has been ATP'd for christ sake  :D
I'll have to show you after I get my GPS looked at.

well is just my opinion that a raptor probably won't do 100, but that's just my opinion. but anything is posible if you spend a lot of money. so what kind of mods do you have on your 100mph raptor that motor must be at least 750 cc or 800cc somewhere in that area right.

big daddy what r you hitting w/ ur rappy / high 80's to low90's

I do not know much about sport quads but I have always heard that banshees are fast. If you have never ridden a sled and felt the snap when you launch you are missing it. I use to ride a honda 350x three wheeler and that was pretty fast.

My 250 will do at leas 40 :o

It has the Titanium Splitfire spark plug baby. ;)

Hey guys, I put lot money in the 660r to make it faster , but i started with a quad that came out of box with speed. next year its going to be a YFZ450 they handle better. who care about top end. must all races are at 100 yards. I want the quick blast of power at mid range. if yamaha came back with a big bore 2 stroke. ya baby now we are talking power, low end power. spin those wheels and hold on you are going for a ride. all my friends are speed junks we have lot of fast quads in our group. 80 + on a quad it start to get unsafe. so we try to gear them down and get more power in the mid range. if you want to know how fast you are going buy the trail tech speedo, you can adjust the sensor to the size of your wheel. it also as mileage counter for service items. ride safe guys  

There's a science behind the speed.  Simply drop in your sprocket setup and max rpm you can pull and whalaa you have top speed.  Of course if you can't redline your top gear your not hitting the top capable speed.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gellett/raptor02.htm

My Honda330R did 78mph and I think 8 and 1/2 sec in an 1/8 mile drag strip. It did right at 90mph down the road behind a car... ;D    O it has about 2500 in the motor. :o  

i hear that 80+ and that's stararts to get scary i did about 90 on a honda 250r and let me tell u i don't really care for it too much so now i'm doing about 72 w/ my little suzuki and that's enough to keep up around the trails. that is unless i ccan find a 500 cc motor from a quadzilla  ;D

there you go. JeffP is 100% right guys

people who say it wont must have never seen it before...
thumbs up

next they'll say a Z400 cant run over 80  ::)

So if a bike looks good then it automaticaly hits 100 mp???
My stock cannondale would do 79.2 mph and I never lost a drag to a stock raptor,so 90 mph stock isnt happening.We just bought a raptor and I smoked it so bad with my predator that I actualy felt sorry for the person running the rappie.So again I dont see a stock craptor doing 90 mph.Point is almost evryone and there brother says there bikes do 100 and not many of them do.They all feel like they are running 100 when your on them but they arn't.Now im not saying it cant happen
because my friend has a turbo raptor and a stage 3 ds650 and we know what they hit.So with all that said it is possible for mtg;s bike to be doing 100.

i agree w u but like u say your buddies raptor has a turbo and the ds has a stage 3 kit and they will hit it. wich means they sunk some money into then bikes. it all depends on what kind of mods you have. you can have the best mechanic in the world built your bike but if you dont pay the money for those after market parts theres nothing that mechanic can do for a bike they know how to install parts and tune bikes, wich has a lot to do w/ peformance but without those after market parts theres not much more they can do.

m0n5teR, You think your fast. before your start talk trash about other people rides. Let do this I will race you 100 yards in  my wife BLASTER. will beet your cannondale or if you really thing your fast we can race my RAPTOR with your  predator. I live right up the street and I have nothing to do today. i will load them onto the trailer and meet you behind homestead track. will have a place marked off 100 yards. I bring the radar gun and my friend will clock speed.SO LET GO!  :o

NO SHOW, just to show you you ever know who on the other side of the computer. and before you trash some ride. Beware there a lot of people out there love to play. Yes, speed is money and knowlege. who has the most to spend on there toys wins. pictures Raptor project 686.

Dang thats looks familiar. We are running exactly the same mods it looks like.

more pics

cam installed

check the size of that piston

sure, I'll say it.

can't run over 80' of dirt without breaking something ;-)

Id@

out of the quads from the group yesterday"sat." 2 quads broke 1 Yamaha raptor,and a 2FIDDY RRRRRR,the suzuki is still runnin like a Raped Ape ;D

Fastest Production Quad was/is the LT500R Quadzilla @ 81mph stock!

A Quadzilla is faster and quicker than a raptor... The Quadzilla is a 500cc two stroke with close to 50hp stock, the raptor is a 660 4 stroke with about 38hp the Quadzilla is also lighter. I have also read to speeds and the average speed of the raptor is about 75+/- where the top speed of a Quadzilla on average is 80+/-. Hope that helps!

looks like the Raptor is about 50hp. I love 2 strokes but, its all low and med power. 4 strokes rule top end torque. Quadzilla is faster and quicker off the line, but 4 strokes will take it at 100 yards. do you have a Quadzilla ? never race one.

i have a trail tech compu calibrated right and i have have my raptor with stock gearing at 91mph with a little to go on 573 in ocala by big scrub. it will robally run close to 100

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but a raptor tops at 76.89 in 5th gear with stock gearing.  Unless you've bumped the rev limiter or are running larger tires you can't argue physics.  Even with 22" tires it would only hit 84.53 top of 5th.

Jeff

Yeah but he's been ATP'd

Still slower then JeffP'd ;)

OK !  8)

i never said i was stock. thanks mike for clarifiying that for him

this makes a big difference.

when Mike W is well enough, I'm gonna bring my quad to him to get the rear carrier bearing replaced,,,,,then make some fast runs and really see where it stands up to with all these speed junkies.

Id@

Wow !! Look  :o at what I started. I have wheels for the front skies of my sled for the track but seems like it would be no contest.  Maybe with a banshee ??? Could you imagine what a snowmobile engine would do in a quad. Well polaris have them and many other makes but not the same. Rotary motors....Got to love them.

I can :-*

http://dunereview.com/saintanthonyvideos.htm

29th video down ;)

i have a ds and stock i gpsed it at 77.8 mph mind you i am a 300 pound guy and i was eating raptors left and ride there was no stock crappie that could keep up the closet guy was like 2 bike lenghts behind me. now iam modified i have a couple this left with a turbo on the way and i am running 98.6 on the gps and now even modified crappies cant come lose ive races many with pipes and all types of mods and they just cant hang. so iam sure theres no crappie doing 100 unless he has atleast a good $3000-4000 DOLLARS INTO HIS ENGINE OR A TURBO

sorry bro but you're dead wrong about the price range on the Rappy.
I have an ATV shop so obviously I did it all at cost and no labor charge but someone walking off the street can have their Raptor running 100mph (give or take 5mph) with between $1000-$1200.
It's all in the port work, Of course the piston and cam accent the port work but with the right flow it will go.  ;D

Go back and read your post.  You clearly stated you had stock gearing.  I stated speeds for a Raptor with stock gearing.  I don't care if it makes 300hp if your running stock gear ratios thats still the top speed.  More HP just gets you there faster.

i got a banshee that won't run 100 mph per hour, but you bring any rapturd, ds650, 450 on out to saltsdale and get you some of it.  Then we just see who the fastest is.  DIRECTIONS TO SALTSDALE ARE IN THE RACING FORUM.....COME AND GET IT....

"POPS" built a rapor that hits 100+

Im sure im gonna have people who have no clue, question me or think im pullin' their leg but- "POPS" street drag SHEE has hit 118!!!

BELIEVE THAT!
JT

I believe it. I hear that he knows what he's doing.

thats it,,,,any of ya'll live near a real drag strip(asphalt) do the times and scan the paper you get after the run.

I think I might take my quad out to Bithlo and see if they will let me run it a couple times just to see what speed it gets.

Id@

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Hemi's don't count on this thread.  :D

I have hit 76 mph on my LT500R with stock gearing, and 20" Blackwaters on the levy at Holeylands(atleast thats what the GPS said).  I felt like a boat skimming the top of the water.  I think it would hit 80 on a paved road, but I've got a street bike for that.

ok mike ,when's the next ride at croom?i'm still up for the race on the back fire trail ;D ;D

Then your Raptor doesn't count because it has a nearly hemispherical combustion chamber. Besides, the slips are not from a Hemi car.

Wares- there are ATV's racing at Immokolee every Friday night.  http://www.immrace.com/

a-man, the man as spoken. da_mtg_man you are the man !

(not legal) drag racing behind homestead track. we have it all but the tree. we use a girl, she drops the flag and shakes her tree. works for me.  8) bring $$$$ P.S we have Special diet fuel for those Quads

JeffP you are right about spocket size. cheaps way to change the way your quad rides. On the RAPTOR by changing the eng (front) spocket 1 tooth more. makes a big different on top end.

Immokalee Regional Raceway
Friday nights $20 as many passes you can.
1/8 mile drag strip.
All you need is Long sleeve's paints and Boots

Do you run the sled here in Florida? I used to have a Cougar 500, Ski Doo Mach 1, Ski Doo Formula, Indy 500, Indy 650, Indy XLT, and others (when I lived up north). You are absolutely right....a sled pretty close to stock form, would wipe the flooor with even a heavily modded quad. Snowmobiles can produce over 170-220 HP slightly modded. Factor in the weight to HP (sled engines are tourque monsters) and the means of putting the power to the ground and you have a very good time. Take nothing away from quads at all, I love em but they just won't compete. If you have never owned or ridden a sled, I highly recomend it....I miss mine  :'(

Ok went back and reread my post and nowhere in it do I talk crap about anyones ride.So dont PM me with my bike is faster than yours BS.Also nice pictures of that raptor but again no matter what you guys say a Stock raptor isnt hitting 90mph.I never said a raptor couldnt do 100mph becuase I know where
a few are that can.So relax take a deep breath and if I damaged your machismo or ego it was unintentional.

I agree with Smokin bring em to the Saltsdale track. ATV=All Terrain Vehicle, buy a street bike if you want to race at the drag strip.
There isnt hardly anywhere that you can even ride your quad wide open(no open deserts in Fl.) I dont really see the point in racing them on the pavement. Bring em to the sand drags and see just how fast your NOT.

easy on these poor guys chillen

Im slow.At least thats what my momma tellz me :P

Its just funny how often this top speed thing comes up on every forum on the internet. I was at big scrub about a year ago and there was this guy on a banshee that got to talking to us he said it would go 85mph. So we went out on the road by the power lines, guess what, his front tire was at my back tire and he couldnt pass me my GPS said 73mph. My bike is a lot quicker now, but my top speed probably hasnt changed a whole lot.
 I was at North Port riding 2 weeks ago when 3 4x4 atvs and 1 raptor pulled up to talk while we were taking a break. These guys were solid rednecks all muddy and the only safty gear they were wearing was goggles. Anyway the raptor rider asked how the 450 ran and I told him that it ran just fine. My buddy knew what the guy was doing and started screwing with him" how  fast is that raptor, must be fast as hell, big ol 660 engine" "ye I think it runs about 90"
 He was quite shocked when the little 450 pulled about 10 bike links on him and left him.
Dont take this as raptor trashing, this guy wasnt a good rider and his bike was stock, I'm just saying peoples bikes are not as fast as they feel.

i hear ya, i have one for ya i rode 4 banshee's i built well, i basicly stock, and the other 2 had a few other mods. with me riding, on the same patch of road, pretty close gearing, same gps, all back to back to back, they were no more than 2mph off at top speed. the difference was how fast (elapsed time) the got there...

I live here (florida) in the winter and in Michigan in the summer. It is great. I run the sled in Michigan but only in the snow twice last year. Always in the grass. I saw a post that said get a street bike to race on the track. Well my family makes great money running sleds on the pavement for shows at drag strips. If we did the norm where would people say....What is that ???....Was that a snowmobile in Florida???? :o How fast was that run ???? 8)

The reason I started this post was to clarify a question I had with a friend that siad his banshee was the fastest production bike and it would do 115. It is heavily modified but I did not know if it would. But I see what a two stroke can produce, so I asked you guys who know how fast these quads will go. I am very happy on my rubicon in the mud at what speed the mud will allow me. Usually not that fast. My tires are going much faster than I am. I would love to watch a few of you drag race. Tony

customrubicon, I go thru alot of quads. I build them because I enjoy working on engines. To answer your question about the fast quad. I have a 2005 Raptor 686r 50hp Quad. I hate it next time I am going to buy YFZ 450 and work on that engine. My friend Kicks my a$$ with his. Dam lawyer. And that my opinion. after reading the post from Chillinthemost I am going to try one of those snowmoblie. Have a great day guys

I don't know much but I know this... My 450 when it was stock has outrun Stock Banshees, Banshees w/ minimal mods(Pipes/Jetting), Stock Raptors, Raptors w/ minimal mods(pipe/Jetting). But all those are 1/4 miles. The Banshee w/ at least minimal mods catches me at top end only b/c of that 6th gear. I'm still waiting on the Raptor to pass me. My bike only does around 73mph give or take 1-2mph. Go figure ::)

How about a 4x4? I have a BF 750  on stock tires it will run 71 mph. On the dirt it will stay on the side of any stock sport quad for the first 150 ft.

I never seen one run but I've heard that they will get it on.

I never said anything about racing, or getting a street bike to go racing.  I said that I have a street bike for when I want to ride on the street.  Thats not what my quad was built for.

MAN. THIS TOPIC IS DRAGGED OUT I PERSONALY THINK WE LOOSE SITE OF JUST HAVING FUN THERES A POINT WERE YOU MOD. SOMTHING AND YOU END UP WORKING ON IT ALL THE TIME AND THEN THE FUN IS GONE JUST TO PROVE YOUR THE FASTEST. I USE TO DRAG RACE MUSTANGS, AND  STILL LOVE TO GO FAST BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOUR SELF HOW FAST AND HARD DO YOU WANT TO HIT THAT TREE? I UNDER STAND DIFFRENT STROKES (2 OR 4 HAHA) FOR DIFFRENT FOLKS.  ;D

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My point is, if your going to get up on here and talk abot how fast it is, come on out and show us.  I probably have one of the slowest modded banshees, because I didn't spend my money in the right place.  Heck, it won't even pull the front tires off of the ground.  I would be lucky if it would run 50 mph, but I ain't scared of any 450, yes I said ANY 450.  There is my .02 cents.

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But thats also the reason this section is called
"open Discussion". I love it that people don't believe me. I know for a fact what it will run(as do several other people on here) and thats all that matters to me.

next time you are able to come up to ONF we'll find a good straight clay road to run on and I'll bring my cameras.

Id@

Saltsdale will settle all the complaining.  And if you want to get serious, go up to GA with us in January.  They have a print out of your reaction time, time you run 300 ft, and your top speed.  Remember boyz, going down hill is the cheap way to say your quad is fast.

i wanna see da_mtg_man's bike run .....i think it'll do 100 !!

Get A set of grips they gave me 12hp ::) :o

lol

did u port and polish them  ???

of course

WHY'S IT GOT TO BE A 450 THING ;D

NICE PIC of that fo-fitty NORRIS !!!
you see the NEW "Hurricane Hanna" Yellow one's yet ? NICE !!

The fastest production ATV or ATC as they called it was the 1970 Honda ATC90. Bar none. 7hp! Just hang on baby!

HOW IS IT THAT MR BONES HAS OVER 73,000 POSTS!!

Smells like FISH to me!!
:)

lol... Every time I get near him he figures out a way to bump his up.  ;D

my son's electric kawi quad will run 5.5 mph with the safety screw out. i actually have to run after him!!! i'm thinking of going with the split fire titamagniumanticorosivmoltenlava   battery to boost it up to 6 mph. anyone wanna race. and by the way i believe mike. he says it like it is and he does what he says!!!! ;D johnny raptor.

On A good day mine will hit 70-80 mph... Unfortuanently that day has yet to come :(

Upon breaking the sound barrier I notice d somthing was wrong. Hey this things in reverse. ;D

Im only concerned about makin it across the river faster than the gaters.

Chuck its a 450 thing with Smokin because there is a 450 that he has been trying to beat at the drags for about 6 months now, without any luck.

zilla954..... It was not your post that I had mentioned. I was not being negative just that there are places for doing things different than what they were designed for. Just like stunt riding street bikes at drag strips. Better there than on the street. Very impressive.

Ida Man, how often do you guys go up to ONF? And what kind of riding do you guys do when you're up there? Stayin' near the front or ridin' back into the trails?

I'll agree, but Saltsdale doesn't allow 2 miles to gain your top speed ;-)

Id@

I get up there on the average of every other weekend, and I ride the trails, I just haven't found a pit that I like to stay in for more than an hour.

at least one that wasn't fenced off ;-)

Id@

think I know. the one west of the camp grounds ?

I really used to like the one we called "purple pit" that was a couple miles north of scrub camp site.

Id@

Hey "NOS_PRAIRIE".....  come out to SALTSDALE Sand Drags
i wanna see that thing keep up with a "sport quad" !!!
12-18-04........ HOW BOUT IT CHILLIN .. ???    ;D
100 ft.,,,200ft. ,,,,,1/4 mile   etc !!   8)

tomorrow is Dyno time to do a Before and after  ;D hopefully i can do it before salts  NEXT DAY AIR anyone haha

my 450 r will do 160mph and make you scream ;D

ride it twice and hit a tree ;D

fa real dough, i know its faster than the speed of slow 8)