im goin 2 get a z400 or the honda 450 i go 2 RR and i also want 2 start ridin on the track. what r the pros and cons about both and point me in the right direction. :-\
thx
you cant go wrong with honda 450R. my friends dad just got one and loves it.
well how many trips do you plan on taking it to river ranch, and to the track, z's are about as good as a 450r on the track if you know how to ride it, and the z has reverse, which would come in handy on the trials. but man are those 450r's pretty sweet. If youre going to ride at rr more, i would take the z.
if ur serius about track than y not an ltr...
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660????
Quote from: fdatv on May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660????
they are powerful, but cows, i like to think of them as cows on steriods, fast, powerful, but heavy. A few buds of mines have one. they happen to get stuck in the mud more often just because of that.
Quote from: fdatv on May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660????
not made for track. too heavy. go with a Honda 450r. they are awesome.
i'm w/ fox17 i'd rather have quality than reverse
my buddie is willing 2 sell me his 450r 2005 all stock for 4000???is that a good deal it is like brand new ???
Quote from: fdatv on May 14, 2006, 11:06:02 AM
my buddie is willing 2 sell me his 450r 2005 all stock for 4000???is that a good deal it is like brand new ???
thats an awesome deal!
klutchbuster.
i'd go for it man those things are wicked quick even stock
How much do u think i can get 4 a 2001 warrior in great shape w/ some mods??
I would NOT buy a 2005 or a 2006 Z400 because of the problems with the clutch cover corroding away. The only way I would buy one is if the dealer put a 2004 cluych cver on iy before I took it home.
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 12, 2006, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: fdatv on May 12, 2006, 09:42:25 PM
i dont have the money 4 a ltr and reverse would be nice but i cand do w/o it
what bout the raptor 660????
they are powerful, but cows, i like to think of them as cows on steriods, fast, powerful, but heavy. A few buds of mines have one. they happen to get stuck in the mud more often just because of that.
Im sorry but I do not think you guys know to much about Raptors then.
Raptor 660 Specs.
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspecs/46/0/specs.aspx
Z400 Specs.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/LTZ400K5/Specs/Default.aspx
398 = Raptor
372 = Z400
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26 lb. difference is not alot, and the power more than enough makes up for it.
There is also no way a stock Z400 is as fast as any stock 450 on the track either.... It is your choice, all are great choices but the Z or Raptor would be more all around, while the 450 is a refined MX/Trail quad.
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.
as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.
thx 4 the replys
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.
as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.
I understand where you are coming from, and 26 pounds is a pretty big difference, but not a crazy big difference. As I am 6'-3" and 260lbs. the 26 lb. difference doesnt really concern me, but thanks for helping me realize....
Quote from: Yamaha72 on May 14, 2006, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.
as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.
I understand where you are coming from, and 26 pounds is a pretty big difference, but not a crazy big difference. As I am 6'-3" and 260lbs. the 26 lb. difference doesnt really concern me, but thanks for helping me realize....
sorry if i sounded like a smart @ss yamaha 72, just trying to get my ideas across ;)
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: Yamaha72 on May 14, 2006, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: klutchbuster400 on May 14, 2006, 05:38:07 PM
actually, i find 20 pounds a big difference, try lifting the front end of a rappy, and then the same to a z, you'll notice its way easier to lift the z then it is a rappy, i dont know if its just me but i find twenty pounds a huge difference.
as for your warrior, im not sure how much you can sell it for, i have a pretty much stock 01 warrior in good shape, and may be able to get about 2k, maybe a lil less.
I understand where you are coming from, and 26 pounds is a pretty big difference, but not a crazy big difference. As I am 6'-3" and 260lbs. the 26 lb. difference doesnt really concern me, but thanks for helping me realize....
sorry if i sounded like a smart @ss yamaha 72, just trying to get my ideas across ;)
right back at ya...