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Title: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 09, 2006, 08:37:57 PM
During the end of the day today at my job(we are setting up for a big show at the Orange County convention center) I got fed up and actually started walking back to the shop towards my truck when some co-workers thought I was just headed back to the van to take us back and loaded up the van to leave.

In the last 12 years I have been a working stiff,,,I have NEVER quit a job, but almost did today if it werent for my coworkers.

I have been; a night janitor, dishwasher for Olive Garden, a receptionist with 36 incoming phone lines to answer by myself, a lowly file clerk, a KFC cook/delivery driver, a construction supply house delivery driver, a computer technician, and a claims adjuster's clerk.

I have worked with and for an angel of a boss, I have also worked for a guy who fired me a week after my daughter was born because I took three days off to attend her birth,,,,yet nothing to this point has ever made me walk out on a job.

Someone got a line on a computer technician job out there in the central florida or Daytona Beach area?

Id@

ps: I won't have internet access for the next probably three days because I will be going straight home to bed after work.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Bigscrb15 on March 09, 2006, 09:10:47 PM
Have you tried Computer Renaissance? We just had 1 open up in Winter Haven and when I was in there he said he had a very hard time trying to find any Technicians. I think they are all independently owned, so that is good since the owner of that store can decide to pay you more if you are worth it.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: geektrx on March 09, 2006, 09:14:15 PM
i am always looking to hire another and expand my staff

please list some IT skills like such

programming languages-if language proficient in foxpro, VB, C#,C++ please list i use code for only those languages

network implmentation skills- do you have net+, Security+, are you fimilar with encription up to 512 bit? do you know unix/linux and windows

Hardware/software support- A+ a must

Medical Software A MUST WITH MY COMPANY- must know lytec/medisoft/perse' and other electronic health records and pms( practice management systems)

Graphics design- Any graphical design expericence?? Photoshop, illustrator, Fireworks/flash mxp

letme know and ill see what i can do


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: mikeE36 on March 09, 2006, 10:59:28 PM
yeah i hate my job too. i freaked out on a fellow driver and the boss because he asked me to go get him shirts. i'd tell u how i freaked out on him but this is a family friendly site.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 10, 2006, 05:27:33 AM
i am always looking to hire another and expand my staff

please list some IT skills like such

programming languages-if language proficient in foxpro, VB, C#,C++ please list i use code for only those languages

network implmentation skills- do you have net+, Security+, are you fimilar with encription up to 512 bit? do you know unix/linux and windows

Hardware/software support- A+ a must

Medical Software A MUST WITH MY COMPANY- must know lytec/medisoft/perse' and other electronic health records and pms( practice management systems)

Graphics design- Any graphical design expericence?? Photoshop, illustrator, Fireworks/flash mxp

letme know and ill see what i can do


wish I could say yes to most of those but I can't.

A+, Net+, no programming or graphic design stuff to list in my resume, and I do not know those medical software programs.  I am however quite versed in Work Comp in FL. due to my previous employ in that field.  And I have set up entire networks from scratch(running the lines, setting up servers, connecting it all).

now, gotta take off for another 13-14 hour day.

Id@


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 10, 2006, 05:32:11 AM
forgot to mention that this job doesn't pay regular overtime,,,,,,let's see if I can explain this well enough for everyone.

let's say you make $10 per hour.

then for a 40 hour week you would make $400 total.

Let's say you worked 10 hours of overtime, this would mean with most companies you would make $15 an hour for those 10 extra hours worked,,,,not with this company.

What they do is combine the total of 50 hours you worked that week and the $400 you would have made working 40 hours and then divide it by 50.  This turns out to $8 per hour,,,,,they then split that in half to $4 per hour.

So, assuming a base pay of $10 per hour, if you work 50 hours in one week for this company, they pay you a total of $440 for that 50 hours you worked instead of $400 you would have made if you only worked 40 hours.

Really makes you want to put in the overtime huh?

Id@


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: yunt2ride on March 10, 2006, 08:17:01 AM
forgot to mention that this job doesn't pay regular overtime,,,,,,let's see if I can explain this well enough for everyone.

let's say you make $10 per hour.

then for a 40 hour week you would make $400 total.

Let's say you worked 10 hours of overtime, this would mean with most companies you would make $15 an hour for those 10 extra hours worked,,,,not with this company.

What they do is combine the total of 50 hours you worked that week and the $400 you would have made working 40 hours and then divide it by 50.  This turns out to $8 per hour,,,,,they then split that in half to $4 per hour.

So, assuming a base pay of $10 per hour, if you work 50 hours in one week for this company, they pay you a total of $440 for that 50 hours you worked instead of $400 you would have made if you only worked 40 hours.

Really makes you want to put in the overtime huh?

Id@


Ida, I don't know how legal that would be. May be worth checking into if your job says that your to make $10 per hour.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Joedirt on March 10, 2006, 08:47:12 AM
It is legal , the company I work for does the same thing to the dispatchers , nicknamed chinese overtime , only because it is hard to figure out. Salary Exempt..is what they call it.

I feel your pain , I let go of a guy in my department 3 months ago...and have not been able to use my vacation time since , trying to get someone hired was like pulling teeth....when I finally got the greenlight I was forced to hire a 18 year old KID.... :banghead.gif......I tell you what if I could hit the lotto.....that would be the cats pajamas...and I could tell them.. :M..Pucker up!!


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: gery350 on March 10, 2006, 09:06:35 AM
forgot to mention that this job doesn't pay regular overtime,,,,,,let's see if I can explain this well enough for everyone.

let's say you make $10 per hour.

then for a 40 hour week you would make $400 total.

Let's say you worked 10 hours of overtime, this would mean with most companies you would make $15 an hour for those 10 extra hours worked,,,,not with this company.

What they do is combine the total of 50 hours you worked that week and the $400 you would have made working 40 hours and then divide it by 50.  This turns out to $8 per hour,,,,,they then split that in half to $4 per hour.

So, assuming a base pay of $10 per hour, if you work 50 hours in one week for this company, they pay you a total of $440 for that 50 hours you worked instead of $400 you would have made if you only worked 40 hours.

Really makes you want to put in the overtime huh?

Id@

so that means that you got paid 4.00 an hour overtime ($4.00 x 10 hrs = $40.00)

doesnt make sense how can you get paid less for overtime then regular time?


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: VForcedave on March 10, 2006, 09:16:16 AM
Im real sorry to hear these stories about these employment problems. I do not want to freak anyone out here but the Good Lord is in charge of the day to day trials and tribulations as well as everything else. We all have been at the end of our rope before. When things go haywire I usually take a moment off and ask him what I should do and then I would wait for him to take over my thoughts and let The Lord lead me in that direction. Its not majic, its faith. Let him sort it out. Its a lot easier that way.     


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: yunt2ride on March 10, 2006, 09:17:05 AM
May want to check this out. It says "If your hourly wage is $10.00, and your employer owes you for just 3 hours per week overtime, then you could be owed $45.00 for each week"


http://www.floridawagelaw.com/


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: gery350 on March 10, 2006, 09:22:38 AM
Im real sorry to hear these stories about these employment problems. I do not want to freak anyone out here but the Good Lord is in charge of the day to day trials and tribulations as well as everything else. We all have been at the end of our rope before. When things go haywire I usually take a moment off and ask him what I should do and then I would wait for him to take over my thoughts and let The Lord lead me in that direction. Its not majic, its faith. Let him sort it out. Its a lot easier that way.     

thats exectly how i feel. ecerything has been predestined before the beginning of time. i'm going through  a little thing myself and i know its all part of gods master plan.

like george michael said: you gotta have faith. ;D


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: yunt2ride on March 10, 2006, 09:28:25 AM
Here is another. It says "must receive overtime pay for hours worked in excess of 40 in a workweek of at least one and one-half times their REGULAR rates of pay." So that does not mean as long as I am paying you minimum wage plus the overtime of minimum wage. It says YOUR REGULAR RATE OF PAY. Ida, you may can get some back pay here. LOL


http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/wages/overtimepay.htm


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: wilburz on March 10, 2006, 09:34:02 AM
Ida

You gots a PM.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: NPRVinson on March 10, 2006, 10:31:21 AM
Id@, check with the wage and labor board, I agreed to work for straight time some years ago and a couple of years later one of the guy's employees turned him in and he was forced to pay everybody who worked for him back pay for overtime. Mine was over a thousand dollars, it was nice because I didn't know anything about it and was not expecting the check. Doesn't sound legal to me.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: backinsaddle on March 10, 2006, 11:06:39 AM
There are two classifications: exempt, and non-exempt (I'm not talking about contract work, 1099's, etc.)  If you are on their payroll, and they pay taxes on you, you fall into one of the two categories. 
If you are paid hourly, then this is absolutely not legal.  And the fed govt has specific designations that determine if a job falls under one or the other category.  A rule of thumb is: if you have decision making capability that impacts the financials of the company, you are generally considered exempt (salary), if you don't, it's considered hourly.  I believe in Florida, anything over 40 hours (as opposed to California, anything over an 8 hour day), they must pay overtime. 

Hope this makes sense.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: geektrx on March 10, 2006, 11:24:49 AM
ida

it's ok i might be able to get you a  network tech position with a buddy of mine, he is just an IT company with basci networking, hardware/software, and misc. other rescources under their belt

he is always busy with work, so i can see in he need more help i know he just let some one go for stealing and pocketing the money from the job

i do all the other crap listedi mainly do doctor offices, commercial buildings, and a little bit of home service calls

most of the support is over the phone unless we have to setup a  network or something of that nature


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Dr.Dirt on March 10, 2006, 12:09:51 PM
Here is another. It says "must receive overtime pay for hours worked in excess of 40 in a workweek of at least one and one-half times their REGULAR rates of pay." So that does not mean as long as I am paying you minimum wage plus the overtime of minimum wage. It says YOUR REGULAR RATE OF PAY. Ida, you may can get some back pay here. LOL


[url]http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/wages/overtimepay.htm[/url]


That sounds right to me. What they are doing to you is illegal and just plain not right. If I were you I would use this knowlege to my advantage and get something done.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Joedirt on March 10, 2006, 12:26:20 PM
If he is Salary and not hourly it is legal.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Thrasher on March 10, 2006, 12:40:49 PM
curious as to ballpark pay and for more than just basic skills?
I work in the IT dept of a hospital right now and wondering what the outside pays these days for such work (been here 10 years).

I do make great coin doing home/small biz service calls myself.


ida

it's ok i might be able to get you a  network tech position with a buddy of mine, he is just an IT company with basci networking, hardware/software, and misc. other rescources under their belt

he is always busy with work, so i can see in he need more help i know he just let some one go for stealing and pocketing the money from the job

i do all the other crap listedi mainly do doctor offices, commercial buildings, and a little bit of home service calls

most of the support is over the phone unless we have to setup a  network or something of that nature


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Chuck_Norris on March 10, 2006, 06:53:20 PM
Im real sorry to hear these stories about these employment problems. I do not want to freak anyone out here but the Good Lord is in charge of the day to day trials and tribulations as well as everything else. We all have been at the end of our rope before. When things go haywire I usually take a moment off and ask him what I should do and then I would wait for him to take over my thoughts and let The Lord lead me in that direction. Its not majic, its faith. Let him sort it out. Its a lot easier that way.     

ditto brother, praying for ya


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Busta Nutt on March 10, 2006, 08:09:55 PM
Im real sorry to hear these stories about these employment problems. I do not want to freak anyone out here but the Good Lord is in charge of the day to day trials and tribulations as well as everything else. We all have been at the end of our rope before. When things go haywire I usually take a moment off and ask him what I should do and then I would wait for him to take over my thoughts and let The Lord lead me in that direction. Its not majic, its faith. Let him sort it out. Its a lot easier that way.     
Dude you for real? I hate people trying to pawn off thier religious convictions every chance they get. Keep it on subject or keep it to yourself. Maybe there should be a religion forum for you and chuck norris.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Bigscrb15 on March 10, 2006, 08:45:20 PM
Im real sorry to hear these stories about these employment problems. I do not want to freak anyone out here but the Good Lord is in charge of the day to day trials and tribulations as well as everything else. We all have been at the end of our rope before. When things go haywire I usually take a moment off and ask him what I should do and then I would wait for him to take over my thoughts and let The Lord lead me in that direction. Its not majic, its faith. Let him sort it out. Its a lot easier that way.     
Dude you for real? I hate people trying to pawn off thier religious convictions every chance they get. Keep it on subject or keep it to yourself. Maybe there should be a religion forum for you and chuck norris.

I usually agree with everything you say, but not this time. He wasn't forcing his religion on anyone. He was saying what he does in situations like this. I don't see anything wrong with someone mentioning their religion. You might need to read your own comment "Keep it on subject or keep it to yourself."  You are way out of line telling people to stop talking about religion. We live in America and have a right to speak about it if we want. You also live in America so you have a right not to read about it, but it's your job to not read it, not their job to stop posting it.


Now let's let this die right here. I don't want to trash Id@'s thread with arguing and I hope he finds a job soon that he is happy with.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: aftrmath99 on March 11, 2006, 10:58:37 AM
you will find very few people like their jobs.im self employed and still dont like working. i found that i just cant work for anyone. i just got tired of putting money in someone elses pocket for the hard work i did. even being self employed has its drawbacks. they dont say   hey lets go to fun   they call it work for a reason. usually it works your mind more than your body. personally  my time is worth way more than money to me  thats why i only work from 8 in the morning until 2 in the afternoon.im home no later than 2:30. i still only bring home 6 to 8 hundred a week but it really is worth being home early  that way im home when my son gets home from school and we have the rest of the day to do the stuff we enjoy.if i worked a few more hours a day i would make alot more money but i just cant justify it .half theproblem with kids these days is that they are left alone or with someone you dont really know and are allowed to run wild.i will never do that. i would seriously try finding some kind of self employment  if you are good at fixing computers there are alot of ways to start your own bussiness.  then you dont have to deal with the bullsh$t that comes with working for someone else. usually its the politics at work that really start to wear on people.  johny makes more money than me  or someone gets promoted that dosnt deserve it and i got passed by  stuff like that.  working for yourself is the only way to go  check into it  you may find it easier than you think


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: mudnuri on March 11, 2006, 12:59:37 PM
Good luck ida! Keep your chin up. I have to deal with people who have money and think I am dirt

p.s. I agree 100% with willburzbro


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Busta Nutt on March 11, 2006, 04:27:12 PM
Mr. cowboy this is open discussion so I guess I can post what I want. Maybe it is your job not to read my posts. If Ida wants a better job no amount of praying is going to get him one. Do you think Bill Gates prayed to be a billionaire so God made him one. I don't think so. You want a better job with more pay you have to work for it. Go to school, educate yourself.  You have to work for it. Figure out what you want to do and set your sights on that.  Good jobs don't fall in your lap you have to do some digging to find one.  At any rate if God is doing all these magical things then why hasent he done anything to stop all the killing of hundreds of thousands of people in Chad and Sudan.  you are right we should not pollute Ida's thread with this argument we should start a new one.  Like I said if you want to talk about God let's start a religion forum. Please forgive me I have to go watch the 700 Club now. Sorry Ida I won't pollute your post again.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 12, 2006, 07:21:02 AM
forgot to mention that this job doesn't pay regular overtime,,,,,,let's see if I can explain this well enough for everyone.

let's say you make $10 per hour.

then for a 40 hour week you would make $400 total.

Let's say you worked 10 hours of overtime, this would mean with most companies you would make $15 an hour for those 10 extra hours worked,,,,not with this company.

What they do is combine the total of 50 hours you worked that week and the $400 you would have made working 40 hours and then divide it by 50.  This turns out to $8 per hour,,,,,they then split that in half to $4 per hour.

So, assuming a base pay of $10 per hour, if you work 50 hours in one week for this company, they pay you a total of $440 for that 50 hours you worked instead of $400 you would have made if you only worked 40 hours.

Really makes you want to put in the overtime huh?

Id@


Ida, I don't know how legal that would be. May be worth checking into if your job says that your to make $10 per hour.

heads over a barrel,,,completely legal because my industry by federal law doesn't have to pay overtime if you are salaried,,,,which I am.

Id@


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 12, 2006, 07:24:58 AM
ida

it's ok i might be able to get you a  network tech position with a buddy of mine, he is just an IT company with basci networking, hardware/software, and misc. other rescources under their belt

he is always busy with work, so i can see in he need more help i know he just let some one go for stealing and pocketing the money from the job

i do all the other crap listedi mainly do doctor offices, commercial buildings, and a little bit of home service calls

most of the support is over the phone unless we have to setup a  network or something of that nature

absolutely,,,sounds like me :-)

Id@


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 13, 2006, 09:50:04 AM
Im real sorry to hear these stories about these employment problems. I do not want to freak anyone out here but the Good Lord is in charge of the day to day trials and tribulations as well as everything else. We all have been at the end of our rope before. When things go haywire I usually take a moment off and ask him what I should do and then I would wait for him to take over my thoughts and let The Lord lead me in that direction. Its not majic, its faith. Let him sort it out. Its a lot easier that way.     

ditto brother, praying for ya

very well put Dave!!!


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 13, 2006, 10:19:23 AM
you will find very few people like their jobs.im self employed and still dont like working. i found that i just cant work for anyone. i just got tired of putting money in someone elses pocket for the hard work i did. even being self employed has its drawbacks. they dont say   hey lets go to fun   they call it work for a reason. usually it works your mind more than your body. personally  my time is worth way more than money to me  thats why i only work from 8 in the morning until 2 in the afternoon.im home no later than 2:30. i still only bring home 6 to 8 hundred a week but it really is worth being home early  that way im home when my son gets home from school and we have the rest of the day to do the stuff we enjoy.if i worked a few more hours a day i would make alot more money but i just cant justify it .half theproblem with kids these days is that they are left alone or with someone you dont really know and are allowed to run wild.i will never do that. i would seriously try finding some kind of self employment  if you are good at fixing computers there are alot of ways to start your own bussiness.  then you dont have to deal with the bullsh$t that comes with working for someone else. usually its the politics at work that really start to wear on people.  johny makes more money than me  or someone gets promoted that dosnt deserve it and i got passed by  stuff like that.  working for yourself is the only way to go  check into it  you may find it easier than you think

I have an idea that I know is not a unique way to go, but I'm sure it would take me a little while to gather the client base enough to support myself,,,,and while I do that, I can't be working a full time job, so I'm kinda stuck at the moment unless someone has another way for me to pay the bills while I gather clients enough to support myself.

Id@


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: VForcedave on March 13, 2006, 11:29:45 AM
IDA- Sorry I did not intend to turn your employment situation into a religious discussion. I was just laying out what I do when the $#it hits the fan for me. I hope and Pray things turn around for you. There is plenty of computer/networking jobs available in Broward county. I know 2 people who own their own companys and can not find reliable technitions. Again, I am sorry for starting that little skirmish, its amazing how people get offended over something they feel does not exist. Good luck to you.     


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: Ida_Mann on March 13, 2006, 02:47:55 PM
IDA- Sorry I did not intend to turn your employment situation into a religious discussion. I was just laying out what I do when the $#it hits the fan for me. I hope and Pray things turn around for you. There is plenty of computer/networking jobs available in Broward county. I know 2 people who own their own companys and can not find reliable technitions. Again, I am sorry for starting that little skirmish, its amazing how people get offended over something they feel does not exist. Good luck to you.     

as some may already know, I am NOT offended, and there is no need for you to apologize.

Id@


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: SWAMP_DONKEY on March 13, 2006, 03:17:54 PM
IDA- Sorry I did not intend to turn your employment situation into a religious discussion. I was just laying out what I do when the $#it hits the fan for me. I hope and Pray things turn around for you. There is plenty of computer/networking jobs available in Broward county. I know 2 people who own their own companys and can not find reliable technitions. Again, I am sorry for starting that little skirmish, its amazing how people get offended over something they feel does not exist. Good luck to you.     

What you do is the right thing...DO NOT EVER APOLOGIZE for that. Good Luck to ya Ida.

Oh and GOD bless. ;)


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: TRX450R_Racer on March 13, 2006, 04:06:16 PM
forgot to mention that this job doesn't pay regular overtime,,,,,,let's see if I can explain this well enough for everyone.

let's say you make $10 per hour.

then for a 40 hour week you would make $400 total.

Let's say you worked 10 hours of overtime, this would mean with most companies you would make $15 an hour for those 10 extra hours worked,,,,not with this company.

What they do is combine the total of 50 hours you worked that week and the $400 you would have made working 40 hours and then divide it by 50.  This turns out to $8 per hour,,,,,they then split that in half to $4 per hour.

So, assuming a base pay of $10 per hour, if you work 50 hours in one week for this company, they pay you a total of $440 for that 50 hours you worked instead of $400 you would have made if you only worked 40 hours.

Really makes you want to put in the overtime huh?

Id@

That isn't legal call 1-561-447-8888 for free advice from a top labor lawyer. They handled my case very well.


Title: Re: anyone hate their job this much?
Post by: needforspeed on March 17, 2006, 06:10:53 AM
If he calls that number, the lawyer calls his job, now he is going to be out of work.


forgot to mention that this job doesn't pay regular overtime,,,,,,let's see if I can explain this well enough for everyone.

let's say you make $10 per hour.

then for a 40 hour week you would make $400 total.

Let's say you worked 10 hours of overtime, this would mean with most companies you would make $15 an hour for those 10 extra hours worked,,,,not with this company.

What they do is combine the total of 50 hours you worked that week and the $400 you would have made working 40 hours and then divide it by 50.  This turns out to $8 per hour,,,,,they then split that in half to $4 per hour.

So, assuming a base pay of $10 per hour, if you work 50 hours in one week for this company, they pay you a total of $440 for that 50 hours you worked instead of $400 you would have made if you only worked 40 hours.

Really makes you want to put in the overtime huh?

Id@

That isn't legal call 1-561-447-8888 for free advice from a top labor lawyer. They handled my case very well.