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Title: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: dirtyface on February 19, 2006, 07:33:13 PM
Please people wear your Helmets and gear. I just can't stand to see people hurt. The poor guy was jumping the road out there on his bike and crashed really bad. I don't think he is going to live. He wasn't breathing or moving and bleeding everywhere from his head. Whoever he was I hope and pray he makes it but it didn't look good.

It just makes me feel so frustrated when I see all these prople out there with no protection on. You don't realize how easily you can get hurt. This guy didn't even have a shirt on. You know, after you get hurt you would give anything to go back in time and put your helmet and gear on before your crash. I fell so bad for this guy and his family.  Everybody needs to learn from this terrible accident. EVERYONE PLEASE WEAR YOUR GEAR BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

And I bet if this keeps happening they are going to close this spot for sure. :(


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Toomey on February 19, 2006, 07:35:32 PM
That's terrible man.  I guess he thought it would look cool to not wear anything, but it doesn't look cool getting killed jumping that tiny jump. 


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Southern4x4 on February 19, 2006, 07:35:42 PM
exactly people have been killed out there from either to wild with out the proper gear or were hit by wild people


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: svtbolt04 on February 19, 2006, 07:39:19 PM
I dont know about anyone else, but I think when I wear all my gear I look intimidating...


Feel bad for the man.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: 1FasterBlaster on February 19, 2006, 08:00:21 PM
I've fallen from being 15' ft. up in the air.Wearing gear, I barely felt it. Coming down hill to a big burm in 4th gear, pulled the brake lever and it broke in two. I learned the hard way not wearing riding boots, sprained my ankle so bad, I couldn't ride for 6 months.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: VForcedave on February 19, 2006, 10:39:14 PM
Thats 2 bad crashes out there in the last couple weeks. I hope he makes it through.
Please people wear your Helmets and gear. I just can't stand to see people hurt. The poor guy was jumping the road out there on his bike and crashed really bad. I don't think he is going to live. He wasn't breathing or moving and bleeding everywhere from his head. Whoever he was I hope and pray he makes it but it didn't look good.

It just makes me feel so frustrated when I see all these prople out there with no protection on. You don't realize how easily you can get hurt. This guy didn't even have a shirt on. You know, after you get hurt you would give anything to go back in time and put your helmet and gear on before your crash. I fell so bad for this guy and his family.  Everybody needs to learn from this terrible accident. EVERYONE PLEASE WEAR YOUR GEAR BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

And I bet if this keeps happening they are going to close this spot for sure. :(



Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Ida_Mann on February 20, 2006, 07:44:54 AM
one of the reasons that following Sir Moose's footsteps, I will ride even my utility with a helmet on.

Id@


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: AintSkeered on February 20, 2006, 08:09:45 AM
Hate to say it but he was one of about 6 imbeciles who were out there jumping that road and riding their sport quads on only the rear wheels all aftrernoon. Too many near misses to count, too. If it was the guy we saw, he had no shirt or shoes on. Because there's no legal places to ride and Holeyland side is closed, everyone was bunched-up on the waterlogged side where it's still too wet for sport quads. FWC was out protecting the wildlife and educating many that they can only ride on the Everglades/Francis Taylor WMA side until May, but, there was no sign of them protecting public safety by enforcing the speed limit/reckless driving laws, all flippin day.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Ida_Mann on February 20, 2006, 08:24:09 AM
well, at least none of the wildlife or trees were hurt  :'(

Id@


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: garym on February 20, 2006, 08:30:52 AM
As sad as it sounds, it's Darwin's theory of evolution. Only the smart/strong will survive.  It bet he is not  looking too cool now with all those tubes hooked up to him......


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: dirtyface on February 20, 2006, 09:02:11 AM
No Ain'tskeered, It wasn't one of those guys on sports. It was a guy an a honda rincon. Sorry I missed you and Keeter, I was running late yesterday.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: raptor426 on February 20, 2006, 10:47:39 AM
man, that sucks, I hope he pulls through and can ride again, with a helmet on, of course.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: VForcedave on February 20, 2006, 02:05:59 PM
I just talked to a guy that wishes all the @#%$@#$*& quad riders were banned from there. He grew up in Davie and spent most of his life hunting/fishing etc out there. He says the quad riders will be banned soon. If they piss off the wrong guy, someone may even get a bullet someday. I told him thats pretty extreme. He said the Full Track and Half Track crowd hates us riding there. These accidents and injuries continue to to plague the ATV community everywhere. Its only a matter of time. Enough Said.     


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: gery350 on February 20, 2006, 02:35:25 PM
thats sad to hear. i hope he makes it.

you know its these very people that later complain of nowhere to ride.
well if they wouldnt act like fools...............

hey my son and i both have sport bikes and when we want to jump we go to the track. let me tell ya it aint cheap, a trip to the track will easily run 120.00 to 150.00 bucks between entrance fee, gas, food, etc.

wont cost me anything to jump the road at holylands, but its called respect for others.


again its tragic and i hope he makes it.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: weston rider on February 20, 2006, 03:03:37 PM
he is a friend of mine and  is not doing well and will be taken off life support.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: 05greengriz on February 20, 2006, 03:05:10 PM
sorry to hear that weston rider


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: gery350 on February 20, 2006, 03:13:36 PM
i'm sorry to hear about your friend. i thought your original post said he was going to be ok.?


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: weston rider on February 20, 2006, 03:23:57 PM
sorry about that i did not look at what i wrote.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Chillinthemost on February 20, 2006, 04:40:41 PM
Its always sad when someone gets hurt or dies but come on people you can buy a helmet fo $60. I was at Eureka on Sun and there were a LOT of riders without helmets and only a few months ago a rider was air lifted out of there with a busted skull.
 If you dont wear protection for yourself, then wear it for the children, wife, parents, etc. that will be left behind when you die.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: VForcedave on February 20, 2006, 05:03:50 PM
I am real sorry about your buddy.
he is a friend of mine and  is not doing well and will be taken off life support.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: dirtyface on February 20, 2006, 05:32:30 PM
he is a friend of mine and  is not doing well and will be taken off life support.

I am really sorry to hear that about your friend weston rider. I saw him lying there on the ground and I was just feeling so helpless that I couldn't do anything for him. I knew he was in big trouble. One guy was  really trying to help him, giving him mouth to mouth  to give him air to the chopper arrived. He tried his best.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Thrumud on February 20, 2006, 10:45:43 PM
That is why WE SHOULD WEAR OUR HELMETS & GEAR.  I can't understand why some people can't get that through their heads !   My helmet saved my life just a few weeks ago, my Raptor 700 (weight 368 lb) flipped me when I hit a 3 foot drop at just under 20 mph on a trail and landed on my helmet trapping me under the bike, could you imagine if I was not wearing my helmet.  Please, please wear your helmets!   

My prayers to this guy.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: SwampRat on February 21, 2006, 05:29:06 PM
I was at the cross-over Sunday morning and saw a guy jumping the road on a sport with no helmet or shirt.  Sorry to hear about your friend. 


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: SoFlaEiger on February 22, 2006, 04:56:44 PM
this is why we are gonna get banned damnit

I pray this kid pulls through some how.  All that could have been avoided if he would have just worn his helmet.

I admit, I don't wear my helmet when I'm riding in the mud and what not...I never go over 5mph and the few times that i might, its maybe 15-20mph.  When i ride my buddies yfz, i wear a helmet! those are scary without helmets.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 22, 2006, 05:25:33 PM
people need to be responsable for there own actions.........

  so in this case ...no loss


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on February 22, 2006, 05:34:21 PM
people need to be responsable for there own actions.........

  so in this case ...no loss

Thats a bit harsh isn't it. I agree that people need to be responsible for their own actions but this guy may die. It was STUPID on his part but we all do stupid things from time to time.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 22, 2006, 05:44:42 PM
sorry no i dont think its harsh, people like that give resposible riders a 'bad' name. these peple have no feelings about  anybody but themselfes.this is why there are little places to ride and nobody in the gov. want to set aside places to ride cause of irrisponsible riders.

 im sorry, i dont feel one bit sorry for someone who doesnt care about anybody but themself. just a waist. :'(


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on February 22, 2006, 06:27:16 PM
I understand completely but for someone to die? Thats the harsh part.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: SoFlaEiger on February 22, 2006, 06:59:41 PM
I understand completely but for someone to die? Thats the harsh part.

i agree...god forbid lonestar ever does something wrong.  If he ever speeds on a highway, runs through a yellow light at the last second, cuts across an intersection when he misses his turn or a number of other "irresponsible" things this "model" citizen does; well, I hope he gets whats coming to him: DEATH!  :-\  How stupid are you?  I wish I could lower myself to your level and wish death on your children when they do something foolish, but I'm not the least bit like you.  God, to say that this kid DESERVES to DIE because he was being a jackass on a four-wheeler is RIDICULOUS and you, sir, are an @$$ho!e.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: bftclub on February 22, 2006, 07:03:41 PM
yeah he's probally thinking now it wasn't such a good idea!!! but every weekend i'm out there ,there is always some fool jumping the road,,,or doing donuts in the parking lot and peppering all our vehicles with rocks....theses people only think of themselves..hope he doesn't die,and just maybe he will learn some respect for others...think of the little kids out there riding around in the parking lot,,and some fool jumping the road and landing on top of them...........that would suck for the kids.....fwc needs to sit in that parking lot and issue tickets to those who only think of themselves


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Keeter on February 22, 2006, 07:13:35 PM
I was out there with Aintskeered and we left about 3:30. When we left there was a lot of other people loading up and leaving. I am very surprised it was not one of those guys on the sport bikes. WESTON RIDER Please keep us updated.
Has anyone or any group ever considered creating a partnership with FWC to have a community watch group? People who ride there regularly sort of Police the area for people without helmets that are riding recklessly and Educate them on safe ways to ride. And of course explain to them how to be courteous to other riders. I would volunteer :) and help co-ordinate.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: gery350 on February 22, 2006, 07:15:51 PM
I was out there with Aintskeered and we left about 3:30. When we left there was a lot of other people loading up and leaving. I am very surprised it was not one of those guys on the sport bikes. WESTON RIDER Please keep us updated.
Has anyone or any group ever considered creating a partnership with FWC to have a community watch group? People who ride there regularly sort of Police the area for people without helmets that are riding recklessly and Educate them on safe ways to ride. And of course explain to them how to be courteous to other riders. I would volunteer :) and help co-ordinate.


educate.....yeah by ticketing their @ss.

I was out there with Aintskeered and we left about 3:30. When we left there was a lot of other people loading up and leaving. I am very surprised it was not one of those guys on the sport bikes. WESTON RIDER Please keep us updated.
Has anyone or any group ever considered creating a partnership with FWC to have a community watch group? People who ride there regularly sort of Police the area for people without helmets that are riding recklessly and Educate them on safe ways to ride. And of course explain to them how to be courteous to other riders. I would volunteer :) and help co-ordinate.

coulnt have said it any better.........


remember thats someones kid that got hurt.
we all do stupid things at one time or another


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: weston rider on February 22, 2006, 10:36:14 PM
TO ALL YOU A$$H__ES OUT WHO SAID ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT MY BUDDY THAT IS THE MOST SCREWED UP THIN THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD.THIS A PERSON HIS NAME IS RYAN.HE IS SOMEONES SON,BROTHER HUSBAND,UNCLE ECT.I HOPE MAY GOD HAVE MERCEY UPON YOU SOUL IF YOU EVER DO SOMETHING THAT LANDS YOU IN THE SAME POSTION.DONT TALK $HIT ABOUT A PERSON WHEN THEY ARE IN A FIGHT FOR LIVES AND MAY NEVER BE HERE TO SEE THE DAYS OF LIFE AGIAN..........I HOPE THAT GOD MAY FORGIVE YOU FOR THE STUPIDY THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: blupits04 on February 23, 2006, 02:09:01 AM
weston rider is your buddy getting any better--sorry to hear about this.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 23, 2006, 04:38:21 AM
Hey SoFLAeger,
 Sorry i dont see the same thing as 'running a yellow light', miss a turn, or speed beiging in the same "boat" as NOT wearing safty equipment and riding a atv.
 This person put himself in the place he is now because he didnt take what, five minutes of extra time to put on his helmet? five minutes that might cost him his life!
 
 And weston rider, were you riding with your buddy when this all happend? If so.....why didn't tell him to put on his equipment?
 im sure with 6500 members on this site word has gotten around time after time about someone getting hurt or killed rideing without proper equipment, but im sure these people believe that "it wont happen to me"





Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 23, 2006, 04:45:43 AM
And were did someone say he deserved to die? i surely didnt!
 I just said it wast a waste.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: NPRVinson on February 23, 2006, 07:34:10 AM

i agree...god forbid lonestar ever does something wrong.  If he ever speeds on a highway, runs through a yellow light at the last second, cuts across an intersection when he misses his turn or a number of other "irresponsible" things this "model" citizen does; well, I hope he gets whats coming to him: DEATH!  :-\  How stupid are you?  I wish I could lower myself to your level and wish death on your children when they do something foolish, but I'm not the least bit like you.  God, to say that this kid DESERVES to DIE because he was being a jackass on a four-wheeler is RIDICULOUS and you, sir, are an @$$ho!e.

That's an understatement. Weston rider, hope your buddy comes out of it ok.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Sweet Z on February 23, 2006, 09:58:46 AM
Yo Weston Rider hope your buddy gets past this ok.
Keep us posted.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: VForcedave on February 23, 2006, 10:40:06 AM
I have just heard that this guy was removed from life support yesterday. This is unofficial. I have a friend that knows the family. I was told he was 23 and had a fiance since High School. God rest his soul.   Again this is unofficial but came from someone that knows the family.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: dirtyface on February 23, 2006, 11:27:42 AM
I am so sorry and I pray for his family.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Moose on February 23, 2006, 11:35:38 AM
May GOD bless him and his family in these hard days ahead.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: PLEDGER#76 on February 23, 2006, 12:47:04 PM
LONEWOLF310,
You are way out of line on this deal, you are the kind of person that we do not need on this site, yes maybe a helmet would have saved him but that is hindsight now, im sure when you were (23 years YOUNG) you were not the perfect responsible person 100% of the time either,,,  and WESTONRIDER my family is praying for your friend!!!


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 23, 2006, 05:06:52 PM
yes pledger your right! this site needs more people that dont take responsibility for there own actions, we need more people to ride drunk on streets with atv ( seen many times in palm bay before the compound was shut down)we need more people to ride over private property, and i can go on and on.......
 I just think that anybody who doesn't take the extra time to put on their equipment before they ride is playing with their life. and that extra five minutes is not worth it to them....... so be it. that is his or her choice that they or their friends and family will have to live with.
this accident could or could not be avoided, but the out come most likely would have been different if he had worn a pertective device.
 life is all about choices and some times we make the wrong ones, and make the right ones, either way you, yourself is resposible for that choice.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Da_Mtg_Man on February 23, 2006, 05:16:38 PM
Lone,
I completely agree with you, The harsh part is that you seem to have no sympathy for someone that as far as we can tell at best will be a vegetable for the rest of his life.
Yes, people should be held responsible and this guy was obviously an idiot but show some compassion bro.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: PLEDGER#76 on February 23, 2006, 05:44:09 PM
I never said nothing about riding drunk, riding on pavement, riding on private property, just saying your out of line here not showing any compassion, he has parents, sisters, brothers and all kind of family!!!!!


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Eworm on February 23, 2006, 05:51:22 PM
This guy was great. He was fisherman, ATV enthusiasts and loved the outdoors. I heard of his passing on the floridasportsman fishing site. Sad and my condolences go to his family. Any moron who cannot differentiatte when to talk down about someone who is close to death should be beaten!!! You can talk all you want when you are dealing with broken bones, cuts, and road rash, but death!!! That is insane and you should be beaten!!! Freagin retards!!!!

think it, Don't say it!!!!! What if his son or daughter or wife is on here and reading all of this????


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 23, 2006, 06:20:09 PM
thank you Da_Mtg_MAN! you seem to be the only one that trying to understand what im saying.

 Yes i DO have compassion for  all people........just more for some and less for some others.

 and pledger,  i guess my comment went over your head..sorry you couldnt figure it out.

 and Eworm do you think any person who takes unnecessary risks that can affect their family and friends should be beaten too?


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: lonewolf310 on February 23, 2006, 06:29:10 PM
 now that you all are in an uproar, .........the next time you all go  out riding  and see someone riding without gear or being irresponsible will  you have the balls to stop them and tell them  how their action can hurt themselfes and family and the ATV sport or are you just go on and mind your own bussiness and ignore it?
i have seen more things added about my post in the last few days that say things i said wich i didnt.
  my prayers are with his family


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Gamer on February 23, 2006, 09:01:01 PM
I have not been able to find anything on the news or in the papers about the crash here in South Florida.  I guess keeping it quiet might be a good thing.  Whether your wearing protective gear or not FWC does not allow you to jump the Levee's or go faster than 25mph in Holeylands.  I'm sorry for your loss Weston Rider and hope everyone learns from this horrible experience.  Be safe out there.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Chillinthemost on February 23, 2006, 09:35:52 PM
It is terrible loss and I feel for his family. I also understand what lonewolf is saying. This is happening WAY WAY to often. I pray that maybe some good comes out of this and maybe it will scare someone into being more responsible and maybe prevent another death.
 


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: DZ 350 on February 23, 2006, 09:45:21 PM
wow man sorry to here that, now i hope they don't close holylands down!! man that stinks lossing another person to stupidity.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: SoFlaEiger on February 23, 2006, 10:46:00 PM
don't get me wrong, I do agree with lonewolf on the helmet thing but PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES and for you to say the things you said and seem so unremorseful and say "that its not a waste" is absurd.

He is a HUMAN BEING.  And other than, God Forbid [gasp] riding without a helmet, he seems to be a PRETTY GOOD ONE.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: weston rider on February 23, 2006, 11:08:37 PM
ryan was a very good person,he was always there to help a friend and a great person to hang around with.he will be missed very much..we all do things that seem like like a good idea at times but are not.you just cant kick a person when they are down.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Joedirt on February 24, 2006, 08:57:05 AM
I think the big picture is the loss of a fellow rider , and a shattered Family. I hope they get the support they will need. Do not let your bickering overshadow this tragedy.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: Eworm on February 24, 2006, 10:41:45 AM
thank you Da_Mtg_MAN! you seem to be the only one that trying to understand what im saying.

 Yes i DO have compassion for  all people........just more for some and less for some others.

 and pledger,  i guess my comment went over your head..sorry you couldnt figure it out.

 and Eworm do you think any person who takes unnecessary risks that can affect their family and friends should be beaten too?


I understand what you are saying but to kick a man down that can't defend himself has no excuse.


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: jessparise on February 24, 2006, 12:36:24 PM
thank you Da_Mtg_MAN! you seem to be the only one that trying to understand what im saying.

 Yes i DO have compassion for  all people........just more for some and less for some others.

 and pledger,  i guess my comment went over your head..sorry you couldnt figure it out.

 and Eworm do you think any person who takes unnecessary risks that can affect their family and friends should be beaten too?


I understand what you are saying but to kick a man down that can't defend himself has no excuse.


some of u r just being down right nasty!!!  accidents happen every day in life.  when something like this happens u r supposed to show support and compainship!!! It could happen to anyone!!!!  EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES IN LIFE. some just bigger than other!!!  give the guy a break!!!! 

my prayers r with you and ALL of his family westonrider!!!  some people r just idiots!!   and commets that r being made shows what type of idiots we r dealing with


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: bftclub on February 24, 2006, 07:50:03 PM
sorry to hear that this dude died..wouldsuck if they closed holeyland because people couldn't obey a simple law of not speeding on levee or jumping levee...all of that property to ride on out there and riding in the parking lot...go figure...never seen a ute jumping the road,sport quads all the time.........come on people  thousands of muddy acres,,,if you want to jump stuff go to seminole,,nice jumps out there


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: tony pitts on February 24, 2006, 08:02:02 PM
I hope the family members dont read this forum . I agree with safety equipment I ride and race with it all the time .but when it comes to a 650 rincon jumping and landing on somebody there is no one on this earth that can sey for a fact that any safety gear would have saved him.I dont care who you are. sorry for everyones loss. death is is never a good thing


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: nobodyshome on February 25, 2006, 08:58:13 PM
I hope the family members dont read this forum . I agree with safety equipment I ride and race with it all the time .but when it comes to a 650 rincon jumping and landing on somebody there is no one on this earth that can sey for a fact that any safety gear would have saved him.I dont care who you are. sorry for everyones loss. death is is never a good thing
i agree tony, but where would you ever find someone jumping a rincon?


Title: Re: Another one flown out of holeylands today.
Post by: bftclub on February 28, 2006, 05:37:52 PM
rincon weighs 600 pounds,then add gravity to that,no helmet......ouch