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budman · October 04, 2005, 09:39:33 PM

Thanks everyone for the positive comments...I know I have stepped on a few toes before, but I just have been fed up for so long, and don't see any fix to the problem without a major overhaul.

budman · October 04, 2005, 09:41:11 PM

Funny...I have to share this with you....this is EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

Quote from: big-daddy on October 04, 2005, 05:05:19 PM
had to jump in here on this one. first Mike apologize for what he sayed and do you know what Mikes personal life is going thru? hhmmmm.... Second personal attacks; Wow thats a big one hmmm............. maybe you need to look in the mirror on that one...... Third the easy thing to do is quit! This site we go forward with you or without you. Sorry to see you go!

budman · October 04, 2005, 09:45:44 PM

And then this.....
in a pm...

You have just been sent a personal message by big-daddy on ATVFlorida.com Message Forums & Classifieds.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Grizz left this site and as soon as he had done that, someone took his old screen name and made SEVERAL posts on that screen name that made him look like he was online, and posting stupid remarks just to make him look bad.

So you blame me for that to! Is that a personal attack or why? if you only knew what they say about you behind your back?

Exmx54 · October 04, 2005, 10:03:06 PM

I think by leaving it's only leaving a bad image on yourself. You let the people who try to ruin the site get the best of you. You should stick around and just skip over the useless remarks from the rude people. I'm not saying your decision is a bad one, but think it through, and think about your reasons for leaving, and if they really make it worth not seeing what is up with the florida riding, and how all of us that really are good people are doing.

qt314nfla · October 04, 2005, 10:43:03 PM

"if you only knew what they say about you behind your back?" a comment made from above.

I was w/ the grizz family this past weekend and we did talk about budman. Nothing negative was said. In fact it was quite the opposite.

Nightbreed · October 04, 2005, 11:23:19 PM

I am not trying to hyjack your thread, but I have once again read enough about what is going on with this site and I am tired of the business getting dragged into it.

If all of the negative posts were deleted, then what are these?

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,3379.0.html

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,3381.0.html

http://www.atvflorida.com/forum/index.php/topic,3378.0.html

I dont care what is posted GOOD BAD OR UGLY about our business, POST IT WHERE IT BELONGS.

If there is a problem with our business, post it in the proper sections, but dont try and say that ATP is any problem with this site. We have and will continue to help as many people in the ATV community as we can. We also have a section on this site to post anything related to us, so that it does not interfere with everyones usual topics. We are a site sponsor, hence we do what we can to contribute to the site and help it grow.

Sorry to see you go Budman, along with a lot of others, but just like what has happened in the past, I think that everything has a way of working itself out in the end.

Thanks, Mike

SkyHighT100 · October 05, 2005, 06:22:57 AM

And as always, the drama continues. I hate to see you go, but if you are going to leave then it needs to be done.. or this thread needs to be deleted, or both. Reading this, all I see happening so far is EXACTLY what you were complaining about in the first place. B-D PMed you, that is none of our business, if it was, it would have been in a public forum. If you have a problem with Big-Daddy then you need to take it up with him personally and not involve the rest of us in this mess, considering the state of this site, we have enough problems of our own to deal with. Not to mention, reading that PM you posted, I dont see anything bad in it... just that he's informing you that someone else has used the Grizz's name. Am I reading that wrong?? Or are you just so strung out right now over the decline of this site that anything you see you are turning into a negative?? Ignore the bad man and focus on the positive stuff. This site is still great you just have to weed through all the drama and annoying posters... it's not too hard.

-Ashley

big-daddy · October 05, 2005, 07:29:03 AM

In customer service and in life there to type of people, the loud ones and the quiet ones. The loud ones are people that talk lot and make a lot of noisy. Normally those people looking for some kind of attention, but there go no where. Than there are the quiet one, the ones that say nothing and leave and never come back. I'm a Quiet one if I was unhappy with service or with something; I won't say a word, just leave. It's your choice, stop stirring the pot!

Also Budman, I pm you to keep out of open forum, PM means private message. If I have something to say it's not behind your back. Get my point! PM me if you have any questions.

kawGIRL · October 05, 2005, 09:09:16 AM

Just hold on and sit back and think about it......you don't what anybody to get the best of you ....do you? Why give them the satisfaction?
Don't hit that DELETE Button! Just go away for awhile and come back later and see how's things are then. Who knows how things will be in a week....month....etc? Also if you delete then someone can take your name and do evil things

RL400 · October 05, 2005, 03:55:52 PM

Quote from: budman on October 04, 2005, 09:45:44 PM
And then this.....
in a pm...

You have just been sent a personal message by big-daddy on ATVFlorida.com Message Forums & Classifieds.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Grizz left this site and as soon as he had done that, someone took his old screen name and made SEVERAL posts on that screen name that made him look like he was online, and posting stupid remarks just to make him look bad.

So you blame me for that to! Is that a personal attack or why? if you only knew what they say about you behind your back?

They call it PRIVATE message for a REASON not for fun! That was uncalled for.
rl.

budman · October 05, 2005, 04:56:15 PM

Quote from: Nightbreed on October 04, 2005, 11:23:19 PM
I am not trying to hyjack your thread, but I have once again read enough about what is going on with this site and I am tired of the business getting dragged into it.

Thanks, Mike

Once again, I stepped on my crank....I pm'd Nightbreed, and called him as well to apologize for dragging him into this.....forgot there were 2 Mikes at ATP before.

Nightbreed · October 05, 2005, 06:30:12 PM

Quote from: budman on October 05, 2005, 04:56:15 PM
Quote from: Nightbreed on October 04, 2005, 11:23:19 PM
I am not trying to hyjack your thread, but I have once again read enough about what is going on with this site and I am tired of the business getting dragged into it.

Thanks, Mike

Once again, I stepped on my crank....I pm'd Nightbreed, and called him as well to apologize for dragging him into this.....forgot there were 2 Mikes at ATP before.

Apology much accepted, and it was great talking to you today!

Da_Mtg_Man · October 05, 2005, 06:49:52 PM

Quote from: budman on October 05, 2005, 04:56:15 PM
Quote from: Nightbreed on October 04, 2005, 11:23:19 PM
I am not trying to hyjack your thread, but I have once again read enough about what is going on with this site and I am tired of the business getting dragged into it.

Thanks, Mike

Once again, I stepped on my crank....I pm'd Nightbreed, and called him as well to apologize for dragging him into this.....forgot there were 2 Mikes at ATP before.

Yeah but where you stepped on it again is that I have never removed any thread regarding business nor have I ever asked anybody to remove one.

xtremeraptor · October 06, 2005, 07:53:03 PM

I DIDNT KNOW BUDMAN BUT IT SEEMS ALOT OF PEOPLE LIKED HIM SO IM SORRY THAT YOUR LEAVING BECAUSE OF THE DESTRUCTION A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE CREATED BUT I ALSO SEE YOUR POINT, SO IF YOU LEAVE MAYBE ILL RUN INTO YOU ONE DAY ON THE TRAILS. UNTIL THEN SORRY YOUR LEAVING YOU SEEM LIKE A GOOD PERSON

Quad32x · October 06, 2005, 08:19:08 PM

Trust me. Hes in a better place now.

Smoknbanshee · October 06, 2005, 08:41:56 PM

Quote from: Quad32x on October 06, 2005, 08:19:08 PM
Trust me. Hes in a better place now.

GGG GET IT RAG

Honda250ex · October 07, 2005, 02:33:59 PM

Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J.D. · October 07, 2005, 04:52:57 PM

Man , good to see drama is still alive and well on the site .....I've been gone for a bit , but man......!

TRX350_On_The_Rack · October 07, 2005, 04:57:50 PM

Quote from: J.D. on October 07, 2005, 04:52:57 PM
Man , good to see drama is still alive and well on the site .....I've been gone for a bit , but man......!

Hey J.D. great to have you back!

renmus · October 07, 2005, 05:10:11 PM

Yep JD, like a cheap soap opera, rerun after rerun. Same thing over and over. Tag. You are it, start a good thread.

customrubicon · October 07, 2005, 06:48:06 PM

I for one have been gone for five months, running my business in Michigan.

I now am back and found alot of unnecessary drama. I have always enjoyed this site and the many people I have talked, ridden and camped with. I really hated to see that the Grizz family left and to see that you are thinking about leaving also budman. You should not leave and let them win.

Tony

tekhanto · October 07, 2005, 06:54:56 PM

hey Big Daddy..............haven't heard from you lately on line been busy with the camp ??

big-daddy · October 07, 2005, 07:01:46 PM

I being helping out in Sprint City in New Orleans. trying to set up a new tower for the police and fire department. Programed over 700 radios on tuesday. Wish them the best out there. Its still pretty bad out there.

Da_Mtg_Man · October 07, 2005, 07:11:25 PM

Quote from: customrubicon on October 07, 2005, 06:48:06 PM
I for one have been gone for five months, running my business in Michigan.

I now am back and found alot of unnecessary drama. I have always enjoyed this site and the many people I have talked, ridden and camped with. I really hated to see that the Grizz family left and to see that you are thinking about leaving also budman. You should not leave and let them win.

Tony

Welcome back custom. I hear we'll be hanging out next weekend. Looking forward to meeting you finally.

tekhanto · October 07, 2005, 07:23:34 PM

welcome back home..............

bet it did get a bit busy there

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