Got my basic HHO setup in

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 12:56:27 PM

Got a great deal on the setup. Anyway, did some fitting and adjusting and got it installed. I'll post up results (I'm not using any electronics at this time...no MAP adjuster) soon enough

And does anyone know if I can use the MAP adjuster for my MAF on 2002 ford ranger 3.0 flex fuel?

I know someone posted on the HHO forums that has the same truck as me. He was posting 20% increase w/o any electronics...

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 01:17:05 PM

Looks good.

Why didn't you inject the gas on the other side of the MAF sensor?

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 01:40:42 PM

Supposibly with my truck, it causes it to run rough because of POST MAF injected air not being accounted for. Basically it puts too much air that the PCM didn't account for.

I just did a lot of reading and everyone with a 3.0 or 4.0 ford did it before the MAF. A few did it after the MAF, but quickly changed it to before.

I need help with the MAP sensor!

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 01:42:54 PM

I put mine after the MAF and it purrrrrsssss like a kitten.

Maybe it's because I have 4 bottles and the gas is more concentrated.

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 01:50:01 PM

Yea, I have heard different things from different sites. Everyone with the 3.0 or 4.0 ford ends up putting it before the maf, so thats what i opted for

I'm happy with it so far...purrs like crazy, I didn't even notice it running it was so smooth!

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 01:52:41 PM

I have a 99 GMC, Z71, 5.3L, 4X4, 7" lift, 35" tires 109,000 miles on it.

JackL · June 12, 2008, 02:01:50 PM

I can't wait to hear the results of this one. I just grabbed some 4" PVC and a bunch of stainless wallplates to make one.

yunt2ride · June 12, 2008, 02:05:48 PM

Cool. The one guy that came into my office that put it on his ranger said that the first tank showed 28, but since then it went back to 20. He is still working on it because that was the first one he built and he said that he built it simplified.

JackL · June 12, 2008, 02:09:33 PM

Quote from: yunt2ride on June 12, 2008, 02:05:48 PM
Cool. The one guy that came into my office that put it on his ranger said that the first tank showed 28, but since then it went back to 20. He is still working on it because that was the first one he built and he said that he built it simplified.

Perhaps that is a lightfoot/new device phenomenon...?

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 02:15:21 PM

Do you know if the guy had an EFI controller on it?

Thanks jack!

And nice truck TRX, I saw pics of the system iteslf, you got any pics of the truck?

yunt2ride · June 12, 2008, 02:22:31 PM

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 02:15:21 PM
Do you know if the guy had an EFI controller on it?

Thanks jack!

And nice truck TRX, I saw pics of the system iteslf, you got any pics of the truck?

He said that he just hooked up the system with alligator style clips just to see if it would work. No MAF sensor or anything. It must have been a very basic system because he said that he even took it off and hooked it up to his mower.

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 02:37:27 PM

haha, nice, get the lawn mower MPG

So could you ask him what he was getting before? I'm pretty curious bc I've heard of people getting good MPG on my type of ranger with JUST the HHO

yunt2ride · June 12, 2008, 03:04:09 PM

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 02:37:27 PM
haha, nice, get the lawn mower MPG

So could you ask him what he was getting before? I'm pretty curious bc I've heard of people getting good MPG on my type of ranger with JUST the HHO

He said 19 before, then 28 on first tank, then back to 20

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 03:11:47 PM

ahhhh, so probably just a driver/conditions thing...not the HHO doing the 28mpg

Mudneck · June 12, 2008, 03:50:08 PM

What mix ratio are you using?Using the distilled & baking soda or sodium hydrate?

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 03:56:06 PM

I teaspoon baking soda in the jar filled up 1" from top. Seems to be producing...

Mudneck · June 12, 2008, 04:08:30 PM

I am using 3 teaspoons per 2/3 quart. Im goin to sitch over to the sodium hydrate next tankful.

jrpro130 · June 12, 2008, 04:54:10 PM

I heard the drain cleaner is great stuff

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 06:07:33 PM

I have 8 teaspoons of baking soda in each jar.

Mudneck · June 12, 2008, 06:09:32 PM

Im on my 3rd refill & theres a good sedement layer floating near the bottom. Guess its time to wash them out. 8 tspns seems high,is it producing a thick fog immediately?

big-daddy · June 12, 2008, 06:15:10 PM

I hope you're using a bubbler, I see moisture in the line.

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 06:25:49 PM

Quote from: bushwacker on June 12, 2008, 06:09:32 PM
Im on my 3rd refill & theres a good sedement layer floating near the bottom. Guess its time to wash them out. 8 tspns seems high,is it producing a thick fog immediately?

I'm going by the water4gas books. It makes gas very fast. I have them wired in series so it breaks down the voltage.

Quote from: big-daddy on June 12, 2008, 06:15:10 PM
I hope you're using a bubbler, I see moisture in the line.

I'm using a bubbler.

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 06:38:42 PM

Quote from: jrpro130 on June 12, 2008, 02:15:21 PM
Do you know if the guy had an EFI controller on it?

Thanks jack!

And nice truck TRX, I saw pics of the system iteslf, you got any pics of the truck?

Here is a pic of my truck.

TRX450R_Racer · June 12, 2008, 06:43:11 PM

I also installed indicator lights so I know the HHO generators are working. I have them wired in series in pairs. One is wired with green and the other is wired with red. Hence the green and red lights. I also installed a switch to turn them off if I need to have the key on without the truck running I don't have to pull the fuses. I used to have a factory cd player mounted there that was seperate from the factory AM/FM cassette player. Since I have an aftermarket stereo I decided to install the stuff there with the elecric brake controller.

yunt2ride · June 12, 2008, 06:51:23 PM

Looks good, keep us informed about the milage.